Large residential development in Blanch Centre

Yay more traffic sure why not

This development sounds like something suited for the inner city, not a suburban area.

The obsession with 1bedroom apartments & high density continues. Very small number of 3 bedrooms. Will this be a build to rent in the end?

I see dublin 15 is the target area for these apartment towers. If only these developers understand that local infrastructre is already at capacity and struggling.

As someone said above, where are they going to school? Schools which have that area in their catchment, are they at capacity? Will these children have to travel all across dublin 15 for a school place? Is the GP available to register over 400 new patients? Will these residents have to travel elsewhere to see a doctor?

They say the bluecarpark is to be upgraded from 4 to 6 stories to 'replace' the parking being removed. Why not add an extra floor or two just to be sure? Will residents be using these spaces? Reading the application it seems to be that residents will be using these spaces as they are only receiving around *110?

13 storey is the highest block.... all of these towers need to be capped at 3/4 stories. Keep 13 stories for the inner city, not the suburbs.

I am sure all of those future residents are going to enjoy the christmas season when the shopping centre is gridlock. Lovely views from the balconies.

I dont understand why do they want to build homes in a shopping centre? Are they going to choose another area of the centre and slowly change it from a shopping district to a residential area? Not understanding this at all. The area is fine as it is, in my opinion.

Overall, not a fan of this.

Good to see more infill on this underdeveloped site.

A huge shortage of every type of accommodation in the area and the additional capacity will be snapped up.

In walking distance of schools, a number of major employers and a future Bus Connects hub.

The site may be 'underdeveloped' but the surrounding area certainly isn't.

I believe this site could handle this amount and more. I note that there are plans submitted to build 889 apartments in Dundrum shopping center, in addition to the hundreds that have been already been built there and on sites around it, on a much smaller and more developed site.

If Metro West ever goes ahead it won't be in place until at least 30 years from now. They don't believe that there is sufficient demand for it at the moment - there would have to be at least 15k passengers per direction per hour. More density on this site may contribute towards more infrastructure and facilities being located in the area.

I think this is exactly the type of development needed for Dublin. High density with loads of amenities within walking/cycling distance and good public transport links to city centre.

If the architecture is done right and produces spacious/comfortable units, rather than eeking out as many as possible, it could be a very desirable place to live.

Agreed.

We don't need to repeat the mistakes made with apartment developments of the past.

Space is not just a luxury, it's a necessity. If we are building up (which I think we should) we should give ample sq footage to all units. If we build shoeboxes they will quickly become short term rental solutions. Transient populations and no sense of community.

page 2 of planning document.

Few places as dense as D15 in Dublin now, lots of supply coming/planned with Ashtown, developments like this etc

Development has been Granted Permission.

More city centre type apartments being planned. LRD0001/S3 https://planning.agileapplications.ie/fingal/application-details/93657

Screenshot below of the proposed development at blakestown 'roundabout'.

Tallest block = 16 stories according to application.

971 apartments in this scheme including other non residential uses... seems to be apart of a larger development of the entire shopping. centre. Future goal is to increase population of shopping centre to 8,000-12500 in different phases. I guess this is phase2?

Very interesting.

After that, there won't be a huge amount of unused space.

Any further phase would have to see an intensification of existing use either through demolishing or building above.

Agreed, and there are a number of similar locations around Dublin where similar development is taking place. If we are ever to house our children, we need these kinds of developments.

Yes, city centre/inner city type apartment blocks.

I just find it interesting how its okay to build high rise apartments in suburban locations outside the m50 but when similar developments are proposed within the m50 and in the dcc boundary, people become rowdy and not supportive. Buildings of 16 stories and up should be built within the dublin city council boundaries, not outside the m50, making people commute on already crowded public transport. Build your skyscraper fantasies in the city centre where they belong.

Its not even just the shopping centre, city centre like apartment blocks are being proposed at the diswellstown road. Situated beside the newly built apartments near st mochtas that were just purchased by an investment fund. I dont recall diswellstown road being a 'transport hub'?

Forgot to mention but in the application it stated that the last phase of around 2000 residential units are dependent on the delivery of a luas to blanchardstown which will not be happening anytime soon so thats a bit of good news!

If 16 stories is appropriate for the suburbs then i would love to know what is appropriate for dublin city council locations because i am not seeing any 16 story apartments! A lot of newish apartment blocks are nowhere near 16 stories.

I don't remember saying there was not any 16 storey buildings but plenty of apartment blocks are nowhere near that high when they should be as they are within dublin city council boundaries. Plenty of new build to rent apartments not even at 10 stories let alone 16.

'Densify' the city centre and inner city first before worrying about suburban locations outside the m50.

My original comment was not positive or negative. I just provided the details about the development.City centre like apartment blocks are what they are and will be referred to as such.

Density is needed in more than just the inner city. Dublin needs high development in places like Blanch, unless you'd prefer the city to just keep moving further and further out?

My point precisely.

But @ultraviolence, the location inside or outside the M50 is largely irrelevant. Its about strategic development locations in the contiguous urban area that are, or are planned to be, public transport hubs and places with excellent services.

Blanchardstown is both of those and is just 1.5 kms from the M50 if you're counting.

I hope to see some of the local representatives making submissions to support this proposal rather than their usual NIMBYism.

The people that support this type of accommodation here are the same type of people that support it in the city centre, I highly doubt anyone here is saying yeah build it in Blanch but not the Docklands.

But it is happening. I regularly pass through the back ends of Clonee, and there's new estates popping up all the time, where it used to be farmland.

I also don't think it's a fair comparison between Griffith Woods and this proposed development. How many apartments are planned for Blanch, 350 or so? Griffith Woods has 1600. At first I thought it would be an overdevelopment of the site, but it actually fits in really well.

The rents for a one bed start at €1900 though, which is insane.

Im not quite sure how my post does not make sense as someone said if you dont build up, dublin will extend further out and i said this area is covered by greenbelts. Preserving greenbelts is not my decision its the councils and i gave one example out of many where they rejected rezoning greenbelt. So Dublin extending further out should not be a problem over here.

'Building up along transport corridors' this is already happening along the train line.. 2 large applications currently with ABP. One of those applications want 24 blocks of apartments, 12storey tallest block,(804 apts total)... so building near the railway line is happening.

@ Citizen Six There are 972 apartments in this scheme. planning permission was given for another few hundreds of apartments near blanch library and more are planned as this is an overall development for the area. They have a target population of around 8-12thousand.