US Police killing of 15 yo black girl Makiah Bryant MOD NOTE IN OP

Overheal wrote: »

Because you're simply regurgitating a bunch of talking points with those links that I've already exhaustively responded to in the past, on several occasions. tl;dr unless the killers in these chicago murders are cops equipped and hired by the taxpayer, they are not something that I have much control over. Police reform is an addressable problem.

What was more interesting in that same ad infinitum argument was you bringing up that he was a rapper, so it struck me as peculiar.

You're still dodging the questions asked though, about whether you have any evidence this rap artists prose was problematic?

Would recording himself pissing on a rivals grave not be problematic ??? Yes or no

Hhhhh wrote: »

Are you suggesting that black on black crime in areas like Chicago is not an addressable problem?

Police reform is overwhelmingly more addressable. Sorry for any lack of clarity in my previous statement.

As for the rapper thing, it's not the music per-se, it's the culture that surrounds it.

Did this rapper have that culture?

Overheal wrote: »

The shoe fits.

He's not man enough to apologise properly , he just skirted around the issue , anyway you never answered my question

Would recording himself pissing on a rivals grave not be problematic ??? Yes or no

Just in case you didn't read the link I've copied it for you . strangely enough the cops truwd to save the girl , whereas her father got her killed

A Chicago rapper who got famous for posting a viral video on IG, where he urinated on his opps grave was shot this past weekend, and his 7 year old daughter was murdered in the ambush as well, MTO News has learned.



According to local reports, a 7-year-old girl is dead and her 29-year-old father hospitalized after they were shot in a McDonald’s drive-thru on Chicago’s West Side,

7 year old Jaslyn was rushed to the hospital after she was found in a bullet-ridden car sitting in a McDonald’s drive-thru. Unfortunately, the child was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Here’s video of police trying to rush the innocent 7 year old to the hospital:

Investigators said Jaslyn was hit multiple times around her body. Her father, a rapper named Tilla – real name Jontae Adams, 29 – was also shot multiple times in the upper body. He was taken to the same hospital as his daughter and was reportedly in serious condition, but expected to survive

Overheal wrote: »

Sorry I missed this Q earlier. Of course a public urination would be problematic. That doesn't directly connect to rapping though, which is what I found so damn interesting as a talking point.

I give up

Hhhhh wrote: »

Hmm, I'm not so sure. I think the only way to really address the police issue is to have essentially a United States police department ie, all training is done, and standards upheld, by the one authority. It could be run similar to the marines with a collection of training centers, maybe East, West, North, South and center. That way all officers would be trained to the same standards. And it would do aay with the Mish mash of PD's, some of whom seem to receive completely sub par training. It'll never happen though, for a variety of reasons.

Absolutely agree with federal standards, it's just a long way from there to the current state, thousands of departments, sherriffs offices and jurisdictions. All with their own training and a lot of it is going to be glued in by union contracts.

No but he exists as part of a culture that glorifies crime, murder, general law breaking etc.

Every culture has crime so that seems like an unreasonable charge.

BattleCorp wrote: »

Nah man, that's in no way, shape or form an apology.

I'm just using this as an example so please don't take offence. If I called you a paedophile and you pulled me up on it, you'd expect an apology at the very least. Supposing I said I 'fuelled the wrong conversation', would you consider that to be an apology from me for calling you a paedophile? Not a chance is that a proper apology.

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its not an apolgy to the person he wronged. Its a faux apology and you know it.

You may disagree it is a "proper" apology, or qualify it as an improper/faux apology but we both apparently agree all the same it was one.

Overheal wrote: »

You may disagree it is a "proper" apology, or qualify it as an improper/faux apology but we both apparently agree all the same it was one.

I think you do be trolling half the time

Overheal wrote: »

Fair enough, I'm of the opinion it was.

What's your opinion of the actions that the cop took in the Ma'Kiah Bryant case? Was the cop correct? Had he any other realistic options?

BattleCorp wrote: »

What's your opinion of the actions that the cop took in the Ma'Kiah Bryant case? Was the cop correct? Had he any other realistic options?

I think as I mentioned before the cop didn't do anything wrong IMHO. Not that I don't think any and all of these type of cases should be adjudicated in a court room properly, not shielded from analysis by Qualified Immunity etc.; glad the cop had good aim, but his target was not clean, there were innocents in the line of fire.

Deleted User wrote: »

So no answer, thought so.

You asked me about my emotional state. You asked if I was disappointed.

You did receive an answer: I cannot be disappointed by someone I have no interest in, much less any expectations.

If you are unsatisfied with that answer are you sure you asked me the right question?

Overheal wrote: »

I think as I mentioned before the cop didn't do anything wrong IMHO. Not that I don't think any and all of these type of cases should be adjudicated in a court room properly, not shielded from analysis by Qualified Immunity etc.; glad the cop had good aim, but his target was not clean, there were innocents in the line of fire.

Just to be clear, you think every single police shooting should result in the officer being tried before the courts?

BattleCorp wrote: »

Just to be clear, you think every single police shooting should result in the officer being tried before the courts?

Adjudication includes all manner of courtroom due process, including grand jury inquiries, etc. - nowhere did I say each should mandate a bench trial.

Police are an executive branch entity, that enforce a legislative branch law, if they kill someone in the course of duty the third branch should have involvement.

Overheal wrote: »

: an admission of error or discourtesy accompanied by an expression of regret
a public apology
bapologies plural : an expression of regret for not being able to do something
I won't be able to attend. Please give them my apologies.

I said what I said.

But his expression of regret was not directed at the right person.

If Im unable to attend something, I direct my apology at the correct recipients.

He nearly ruined this decent officers life, yet he directs his expression of regret to who? The criminal? The black population of America?

If I do something wrong that affects you and only you negatively, like call you a name for example, if Im I discover Im in the wrong i apologise to you, not to the wider boards.ie community.

You posting the definition of an apology is being obtuse and you know it. He hasnt the humility to admit when hes was wrong or say sorry to the person he wronged.

Marcos wrote: »

Of course some would say that's too cynical a view. But how would they view
a co founder of BLM Patrisse Cullors purchase of a $1.4 million Topanga Canyon house in LA to add to her three other properties costing $3 million. Not bad for a trained marxist eh? :rolleyes:

Fresh video on youtube - Patrisse Cullors labels Police "Terrorist Organization" at King’s College London as part of the Ferguson Solidarity Tour of the United Kingdom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7fxgTbHERk

https://internewscast.com/unseen-video-blm-founder-labels-police-terrorist-organization-always-wanted-to-fight-them/

Deleted User wrote: »

zom wrote: »

Fresh video on youtube - Patrisse Cullors labels Police "Terrorist Organization" at King’s College London as part of the Ferguson Solidarity Tour of the United Kingdom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7fxgTbHERk

https://internewscast.com/unseen-video-blm-founder-labels-police-terrorist-organization-always-wanted-to-fight-them/

Lol. What a silly woman.

Also rich, powerful and highly influential

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9583359/Marxist-Black-Lives-Matter-founder-Patrisse-Cullors-bemoans-racism-inside-housing-market.html

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/27/black-lives-matter-cofounder-patrisse-cullors

She's stepped down.

She's no longer part of BLM so no need to look into her finances, is that the game?

Just watched the video again. How ridiculous that that ever had to come before a jury. And that unfortunate policeman having to wait a solid year to be cleared. Awful stuff.

Very sad that the little girl is dead but that’s all on her parents, no one else.

not ridiculous at all, the officer signed up for being investigated when he joined.

he will be fine and will get over it.