Discovery 4x13 - 'Coming Home' ~~ { ** Spoilers Within ** }

A desperate End to a poorly written and conceived Season - predictable

• So one of the most ADVANCED SPECIES EVER SEEN IN TREK, was TOTALLY unaware that WARP CAPABLE ARTIFICIAL VESSELS, were a sign of 'Higher life' -LUDICROUS BEYOND BELIEF (draw parallels with the Cetacean probe if you will - not the same at all)
• They're Sorry - awe - heartwarming - (OOPS SORRY WE UTTERLY DESTROYED A COUPLE OF BILLION LIVES THERE - Our bad - yea we will sort something out. all good? Oh and heres a wormhole so - kindly GTF outta here... )
• More 'emotional dribble' about a bunch of people that FEW IF ANY, care about
• Michael - the legend - the one and only person in the universe, strikes again and saves the day - Bless - What would we do without her? You realize that the Federation only fell apart BECAUSE she was not present? And you know what this means?
• Michael Burnham IS .... CHUCK NORRIS

Its desperate IMHO - makes last season look good (which is a tall order). It dragged out for 13 episodes of nonsense, with tiny plot points, a couple of hours of absolute filler, and all the intrigue of Root Canal work.

COMPARE THIS - TO PICARD??? No comparison -

I can only speak for myself but im angry that its even part of the franchise at this stage. Stakes very high in this season of Picard, yet in a few hundred years BURNHAM arrives - ugh

I PRAY we do not see a cross over - im an atheist but i will PRAY we dont.

So the punishment for what was basically treason is community service?

And the General even gets to keep her rank.

"Okay, all the bridge crew beam down so we have loads of reaction shots when the Ten-C are communicating. Hmm, do you think we should ask what their species name is?"

So last week they were communicating through math, earlier this episode they mentioned not being able to communicate something as being too complex yet by the end they were able to have a full conversation?

Just not very good.

Not the worst season though to be honest. It did show some promise at times but really struggled under the weight of past mistakes and, I think, sub-par writing and performances.

Sure Burnham would never get assimilated, but would somehow free everyone who had been assimilated.

And she would likely do that by injecting emotions into the collective.

How the fudge did this get another season? It was complete trash from start to finish.

What amazes me is that even with the third episode of Picard being the weakest of the 3 so far this season (whilst still being a great watch) it was still miles ahead of any episode of Disco this season

Well not long to go to start watching Strange New Worlds - so I think we have to be grateful to Disco for giving us that (and the fans demanding it) and hope to god it is a real Trek series and nothing like this 21st century all inclusive/#metoo/feelings matter/everyone has a place/and every other social media tag line that is prevalent in this piece of junk of Disco

Amazing that after 4 seasons I still don't know most of the characters names beyond 3 or 4 of them (since they get no more than a few minutes in the spotlight most of the time, but remember Lorca from S1) and really couldn't care less about any of them and yet after one season of any other Trek series I would have remembered pretty much all the main cast character names

Can't say I have any problem at all with a dedication to someone who has died.

The show was otherwise rubbish.

Also, only just realised Earth's president was Stacey Abrams (famous US politician - the person responsible for winning the dems the all important senate races in Georgia). Makes sense, it totally felt like an over-egged moment, and I couldn't quite understand why until I found that out.

It’s Just such crap. Again everyone is being told to play every important scene like they are about to burst out in tears of joy or sorrow. The ending felt like a series finale but unfortunately i found out it’s getting another season.

Ya not sure Trek should be promoting living individuals like that. I have a lot of respect for what she done but what's to say she wont turn out to do something really evil in the future.

Also sets a bad precedent because what if it's someone I don't like next time. Or it becomes like the Simpsons who can't stop sticking in famous people.

Wow what a waste of time.

The whole season could have been condensed into about 4 EPs realistically.

Thankfully Picard seems to have escaped the writing that discovery has endured. The worst thing is I'll watch the next season because it's trek and it has to get better you'd hope

I think that's only half true though. TOS and TNG Trek told good stories set in a world where values were (mostly?) in the right place and treated as worth upholding. I'm not sure if it was particularly pushy though. It just existed in that world.

Discovery can't let a scene go by without vocalising it's position on treating everyone with love and respect and allowing ourselves to feel because we are ALL in this TOGETHER people <3 <3. Meanwhile it's just some rote sci-fi story in some rote sci-fi world exploding all around them.

And it's the same with having an American political figure playing a cameo as the president of Earth or whoever and whatever. They've done very little to show us any example of a future worth having for four seasons, but here's an actual real word liberal politician we want to align ourselves with instead.

Poor.

Complete scutter.

Why on earth was the station spinning in warp?!

I think what strikes me the most is how unprofessional the majority of the crew are. And as for wedging in another "my family" horseshit with Adira...puke

Writing eassys this week. Using mathematics last week.

Beings that can warp space are not higher beings? Must be some creatures in 10 see'a galaxy that do it through evolution

Micheal's character no longer makes any sense from where she started. She was raised on Vulcan and had control of her emotions. By this eposide she doesn't even consider Vulcan as an important planet to her and she has no emotional control at all.

Well if they are doing that they should change her name too which is just so stupid to begin with.

Yeah I found the lack of consequences for the General's betrayal particularly frustrating. It doesn't even warrant a dressing down from the Earth president instead it's all smiles and jokes. From a diplomatic standpoint if Earth wants to rejoin the Federation there's no way that Indoye could keep her position. How could Federation/Starfleet officers be expected to work alongside someone that had deliberately sabotaged a Starfleet mission?

I also agree that it felt like a huge leap to go from communicating simple math equations in the previous episode to carrying out complex conversations all of a sudden.

That bit where Tilly was instructing a group of personnel to help because people need support early on in the episode is for me the worst scene in Star Trek I've ever seen.

Because she's a sister of Burnham, obviously.

I've watched none of this but like last year, I have read through this thread to see if it got any better (Picard did in fairness though not without its flaws - mostly that it could have been told in half the episodes)

But it sounds as though this is still the same mess it's always been.. and it's been given another season?? Really?!