Russia - threadbanned users in OP

It's expensive to design and build ICBMs. North Korea has the funds available.

You said we can't even "comprehend" how severe these sanctions are. We don't need to. We can look at other countries to find out. Neither North Korea or Iran are close to any sort of collapse. Yes life has been more difficult, but that's about the size of it.

Russia, given its massive land borders, will have an easier time evading sanctions than the other two examples I gave. A lot of it is theatre and you've bought into it.

I can't provide a proper citation for the existence of the list, it's significance and such, were related verbally by:

Anastasiya Shapochkina, Senior Lecturer in Geopolitics at Science Po university (France), Europe-Russia Relations Specialist

https://fr.linkedin.com/in/anastasiya-shapochkina-96081b5?trk=pulse-article_main-author-card

In a debate program on France24 TV (regular feature) that I watched, where she was one of several guests discussing Russia and Ukraine, prior to the invasion. She's a Ukranian, by the way.

@Liamtech "On The List: No reason to doubt thats the case. I have seen (and heard) evidence of that myself" https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118754775/#Comment_118754775

She described the sort of people on he list and said it included lawyers, Judges, human rights activists, politicians, academics, senior cvil administrators - not just mayors - journalists, news publishers, TV presenters, etc, etc. The list has the addresses of all these people, their phone numbers, emails, social media accounts...

I have seen mention that the purge may already have started, with squads going door to door looking for people. Not sure of the veracity of this:

A complete purge of people at all prominent or participatory in Ukrainian civil society - societal decapitation, basically.

Would you ever give it a rest what do you actually know about what effects the sanctions are going to cause on the Russians? Are you working in western diplomacy? Because sanctions won't mean sfa when Russia wins the war and that will happen if Ukraine dont get some help with international intervention. Nato will only get involved when it suits them like all corrupt organisations.

I'm going just ignore you from now on as I believe you are just a wum.

Even then, the greatest damage done to Russia, apart from damaged pride, would be the continued sanctions

you seem to have a hard on always preaching that.

Well if you're going down the sanctions route, they have to be applied fully with no wiggle room. And enforced with repercussions for nations that will inevitably try to evade sanctions for trade with Russia. Biden admin will not do that in my opinion.

The President of the European Parliament, Roberta Metsola, has announced that Russian and Belarusian diplomats have been banned from entering the European Parliament buildings.

This is interesting

“History Doesn’t Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” – Mark Twain

Indeed, sanctions won't destroy a country, they are designed to impact it, whether it's targeted individuals or the economy as a whole.

This is the first time I've ever seen the Kremlin nervous about sanctions, we know it's impacting them. They certainly didn't expect anything on this level. This has been confirmed by many sources. We also know from market and economics experts that indeed they are going to cause economic issues for Russia.

Will Russia magically cease to exist? Nope. Will it just completely collapse? Nope.

The key here is the combination of effects. The sanctions combined with international isolation combined with foreign companies moving out combined with airline and shipping restrictions combined with Europe massively reducing reliance on critical Ru exports, etc, etc all combine to have a strong effect. One that will impact Russia on an economic level, on an international level and also on a personal level for ordinary Russians (they'll see the effects in their day to day lives)

Sanctions are just one part of a greater package.

An update on his thread of Russian aircraft/bombers, saying more activity seen in Syria since the start of the war in Ukraine.

Should this be of interest?