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Tesla Model Y

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    #632
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 28,074 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770888#Comment_118770888

    It says it at the bottom of your screenshot. It used to be the first price shown I think.



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    #633
    listermint
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770895#Comment_118770895

    It's the first price shown I checked it this morning. Maximum **** hawkery. You have to click buttons to get the real price.

    Should be illegal. And not just tesla. All car Marques pulling fast ones with prices.



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    #634
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118771198#Comment_118771198

    You shouldn’t have to click any buttons.

    When I go to,the Tesla site, I scroll down to MY, click custom order and the OTR price is displayed in the bottom left (69,800). It alters as you select different spec, wheels etc but it’s not hidden or anything.



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    #635
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I thought the cheapest Y was around 65K , so that's only allowing for " running cost savings " ?


    Guy in video is pleased but certainly doesn't dismiss bumpy ride accusations



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    #636
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118772772#Comment_118772772

    I remember the motors forum saying the same thing about MSport BMW’s over the years.

    Yes, it’s a harder ride with the 20” wheels. It you sacrifice that for the looks IMO.



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    #637
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 28,074 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118771502#Comment_118771502
    Screenshot_20220314-172402.png

    Here's what it shows on mobile. Definitely makes it look like the cost is €63,990 and I'd imagine lots of people don't notice the actual figure at the bottom.



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    #638
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118784564#Comment_118784564

    I suppose it’s the same on other makes sites when they add in delivery related charges after the initial price.



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    #639
    Bovakinn
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭Bovakinn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118784564#Comment_118784564

    It's also defaulted to the more expensive induction wheels which adds an extra €2300.



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    #640
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118786217#Comment_118786217

    The website remembers your last selection. Probably cookies or something.



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    #641
    sk8board
    Registered Users Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭sk8board


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118784616#Comment_118784616

    Ah here, I think you’re being overly generous - no other manufacturer is doing this. its nearly €10k more expensive, and it’s not based on fixed prices like delivery or features, its misadvertising based on an arbitrary calculations of fuel savings, which will differ for everyone, over an arbitrary period of years.

    it’s simply wrong. the only reason we’re discussing it is because even Model Y fans or buyers here on the thread are struggling to figure it out.



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    #642
    speedfreak
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭speedfreak


    I agree. I found it confusing when we were looking at m3. Does initially give impression the cars have a lower RRP. As for that expected savings nonsense..



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    #643
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789457#Comment_118789457

    Im not advocating it.

    I just countered that you didn’t have to click through menus to find the purchase price.

    Theres 3 figures on screen. The €63k figure. I agree, this is confusing and have no idea what it is? I do have a feeling it’s the car price before VRT etc

    The €72k price. This is the purchase price.

    The “after savings” price should be banned. Completely agree with that.



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    #644
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,377 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I don't know why they are still using that. If anything it looks incompetent / unprofessional. As @sk8board says those figures are meaningless anyway as they depend on your circumstances. Car makers should only advertise the on the road price. Has no one complained about this (here or abroad) to an advertising standards committee? That said, it obviously is not on the same level of the deceptiveness as Toyota "self charging" ads - that are still allowed in Ireland but not in many other countries



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    #645
    3d4life
    Registered Users Posts: 873 ✭✭✭3d4life


    Did a double take when I saw a white 221D MY on Shelbourne Road lunchtime yesterday

    Is this the first in the country ?

    Anyone here own it ?

    Somehow it looks much bigger than a M3 ( presume there is more room inside too :) )



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    #646
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,377 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    It is much bigger! They have the Model 3 and Model Y side by side in the showroom in Sandyford. Go have a look for yourself. I didn't even think the Model Y looked that much like a Model 3. More a slightly smaller Model X



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    #647
    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭rob808


    I saw model y in maynooth today look a nice car in white.



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    #648
    creedp
    Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789694#Comment_118789694

    Havent Hyundai adopted the 'self charging' phrase as well for their hybrid models? While its clearly questionable marketing spiel surely it's not factually inaccurate.. who else but the car charges the batteries?



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    #649
    speedfreak
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭speedfreak


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118790584#Comment_118790584

    I saw a shiny red one today around baggot street. Looked well with the black wheels. Grey one last Saturday in Naas too so there are a few knocking around.



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    #650
    3d4life
    Registered Users Posts: 873 ✭✭✭3d4life


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118790654#Comment_118790654

    Was it a Model X ? was my first thought.......so checked doors....didnt open up, so No..... not M3....therefore MY


    "A slightly smaller Model X" is just it !



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    #651
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users Posts: 9,562 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Saw a black one in East Cork on Sunday.



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    #652
    innrain
    Registered Users Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭innrain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118790812#Comment_118790812

    The petrol you put in the tank. The engine converts the thermal energy released by burning petrol into mechanical energy, some of it gets recuperated and converted it into electrical energy which gets converted back into mechanical energy by the electrical motor. Think of it as two tanks that communicate through a pipe. You put petrol in one and both are getting filled. If I put a diesel generator in my frunk can I claim I have a self charging EV?



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    #653
    creedp
    Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118791601#Comment_118791601

    Yes, yes I know you're technically correct!



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    #654
    Black_Knight
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    Are these in Ireland already? Could swear I seen 3-4 of them on the motorway (opposite direction) today going towards Cork. Think they were all white, maybe 1 blue. Too big to be a 3, to many to be an X.



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    #655
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,377 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yes they've been in the country for a few weeks now. Earlier in the thread were pics of what was the first batch landing off the ship. I believe there are two on Irish reg in Tesla Sandyford available for test drives



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    #656
    Black_Knight
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    Cool. That's was them so. Wonder were there Cork owners who went to Dublin to collect. They were spaced out about 15-20 minutes apart... Almost like one was handed over after another.

    The White after white after white was a bit depressing. Is that too keep them within reach of the grant, or just because white is cheapest on what's already a pricey car?



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    #657
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,377 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Because white is the cheapest. No grants on the Model Y. That said, with this week's price increase of the Model 3, you can't have both an upgraded colour and any other upgrade, or you will lose the grant.


    A bit like my brother in law who went to buy an Audi Q4 base model last month. He said "I want the blue colour". The salesman said: "no, you want the grey colour.". "No", said my brother in law, "that colour isn't very nice. I want the blue colour". Says the salesman "if you chose any other colour, the car will be €6000 more". Says my brother in law "I want the base grey colour" 😂


    Unfortunately, even though he bought his car for Q1 '23 delivery, Audi cancelled the order on him. And on pretty much any other Irish buyer in a similar boat. EVs are still only produced in very small numbers and supply is even further limited because of COVID and war. While now everyone wants to buy an EV.



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    #658
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118799535#Comment_118799535

    Many cork owners got to collect their cars from the cork pop up showroom. They don’t have to come to Dublin to collect.



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    #659
    Geeyfds53573
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    Sorry if it has been asked but any idea is a standard Model Y is coming to the Irish market - any timeline and any thoughts will the cost be at the same breaks as the Model 3 putting it at 67k ish?

    Saw one in the flesh today I was blown away.



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    #660
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118803803#Comment_118803803

    There is no standard MY at present. Officially.

    There’s rumours a new EPA tested car might be but it’s an AWD car and they don’t normally be a standard car.

    The MY SR was removed due to unacceptable low range seemly.



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    #661
    Geeyfds53573
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Geeyfds53573


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118803837#Comment_118803837

    Thanks Gumbo - great to see you are still dispensing the Tesla knowledge - I must say it looked awesome - really really awesome - I have booked a test drive in the meantime but really can’t justify the price - I have a year old Model 3 which spends all week in my driveway I feel like it’s a Sunday car.



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