Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Exactly. Slow, brutal, much worse than expected, but Russia will win this war if it keeps going, Ukraine knows it too and that's why Zelensky is clearly willing for big compromise while there is still a country left to save

Polish, Ukrainian and Belarussians organised blockade on Polish-Belarussian border to prevent trucks entering Belarus. The queue on one of the check points is approx. 45 km long. Only 2 trucks with animals were allowed to pass today.

It looks like a country reduced to rubble and a population so traumatised it just gives up. Like Putin learned from his pal in Syria.

But that's worst case scenario and I think there'll be some kind of deal before that

Gazprom bribed various people in Germany (Schroder), Belgium, etc and encouraged an anti-nuclear movement. The Greens got into power sharing at the last elections. Germany closed half of it's remaining 6 nuclear power plants in 2021 and the last 3 were to be closed down this year.

I am currently very suspicious of Angela Merkel's anti nuclear tilt, given Schroeder becoming a director at Gazprom and previously pushing environmentalism.

"How a Mindless Climate War on Energy Surrendered Ukraine"

https://gellerreport.com/2022/02/how-a-mindless-climate-war-on-energy-surrendered-ukraine.html/

Beginning to think the Smartest option would be to play Russia at its own game and ukraine launch Russian weapons into Poland and to try trigger a Nato Article 5 ,

They at least try to push out and try to relieve Mariupol

The Ukrainians are dispersed and hard to pin down. That's one of Russia's main problems.

The Article is 2 years out of date The US currently has tanks and troops and F-35s in Lithuania and those other baltic states. Not to mention it being a real attack on NATO.

How about you explain why you think your assessment of the risk is superior to that of Gary Kasparov, Andrei V Kozyrev, The Latvian Parliament, the Polish government and General Wes Clark, former commander of NATO. I'd put their opinions way above your craven Chicken Little witterings.

The risk is that Putin goes full retard and launches a nuke. Very very unlikely but anythings possible. The reality is though that the very same threat is there when he defeats Ukraine and moves on to Moldova. We'll hear they're not nato either so nothing will happen so he'll move somewhere else. Eventually after killing hundreds of thousands we end up at end game where he attacks a nato country and we'll get our answer as to whether he was ever going to launch a nuke.

In the meantime, Europe will be swamped in refugees, feel under compliment to rebuild these countries when Putin eventually is defeated because Russia won't and have to explain how another genocide was allowed happen on European soil. Add a food crisis on top and the pertinent option is to stop him in his tracks now.

That part is probably wrong: "I argue in this thread that if we “blink” on Putin’s nuclear threat, we will increase the risk of WWIII."

“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.”

― Albert Einstein

If this was an attack on our country how would we feel if the UK did not provide a no fly zone, did not provide troops or the EU did not intervene militarily and instead tried to ship in aid from Northern Ireland and accept our refugees.

How would you feel about NATO not intervening if Dublin was being bombarded, The mater hospital in ruins, Apartments burning. Galway invaded and rights taken away, The Curragh wiped out.

Leaving your homes in fear, leaving loved animals at home to die as you cannot bring them abroad, your homes and possessions left to burn or be raided by foreign invaders.

Our leaders bundled into vehicles and taken away, values and culture destroyed.

All the while the sanctions mount up against our aggressors and weapons flow into our small army through the NI border. Yet our calls to defend our people are met with " Ireland is not worth risking WW3 for " and " Ireland is not part of NATO, but step a foot in NI and we will wipe you out ".

Not much good as Ireland and it's people are wiped from the map and our ports and airports taken over by ruthless invaders.

Would you all be accepting of NATO and the West's position then?>

Or do people just think we in Ireland are worth more than Ukrainians, that's some f^^king sick ego if that's the case.......!