Russia - threadbanned users in OP

He was killed in fighting in Mariupol,he was on the ground and not aboard the safety of a ship

Let's be honest I can't see Russia invading any other country after this Ukrainian invasion. Its still ongoing in Ukraine and there still loosing a ton of material and soldiers the longer this drags on. If they had of won the war after a few days then a different ball game, might of moved on other non Nato countries . It will be years and years after this ends before the Russian military will be back up to levels in material and proper training for the military to invade a country again and that's before there loosing more and more each day. Hearing on this thread they will invade Poland etc. after Ukraine, I honestly can't see that happening. It won't, not chance it will so no point going on about them invading a country in Nato as that won't happen, even non Nato countries they probably won't as they will more then likely military be in any position to do so.

In the end though they will have to negotiate with Putin and Russia will still exist. It's about minimizing suffering now but also not rewarding Russia for it's aggression. This could drag out for a long time.

I don't think NATO would want to engage now even if nuclear weapons didn't exist, the outcome could still be millions dead with conventional warfare

@RGARDINR Let's be honest I can't see Russia invading any other country after this Ukrainian invasion. ...

Putin would be still be stupid enough to try ,he's not going to stop at ukraine or he's at least going to nuke part of Ukraine he's not living reality anymore

I imagine it would feel terrible.

However if NATO gets involved this would cause WW3.

We are only a short hop to nuclear war at that stage.

I would urge you to watch the 1984 film threads, I will warn you though it’s pretty horrific but shows what would happen in the event of a nuclear war.

I would be more inclined he might go the nuke option in Ukraine then invading another country. I can agree on that, but no I can't see him invading another country. I suppose with the nuke option it would be more I think if his army was in a complete route and Ukraine was advancing on every front and even going back into crime then I definitely could see him using them then. At the moment I'm not 100% sure as his forces are still doing major damage in Ukraine. More of there was a total retreat by Russia then yeah I could see him using them then or possibly in the west of Ukraine to show his complete anger with NATO weapons etc. Coming across from there.

My bad, I was completely wrong footed by the way Biden would bring it up, juxtaposed with talking about US casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq.

It wouldn't be millions dead in conventional warfare. We've seen that Russia can barely even manage an effective invasion of Ukraine. NATO's move against Russia would indeed be swift, but to be specific, I wouldn't see a NATO intervention going any further than pushing Russian forces back inside their own friendly borders.

Apparently, in an intercepted conversation of a Russian soldier with his girlfriend, 8 Russian soldiers have died in a special baking operation after a Ukrainian babushka treated them with some lovely pirozhki (little pies/pastries). They turned out to be poisonous. Babushka would have access to and could have used mushrooms, rat poison(fitting), pesticides, or leaves from poisonous shrubs that come from that part of Central Europe. The Russians obviously don't fear Baba Yaga but at least they were loved to death by the babushka

I've posted this on the Ukraine thread but I'm posting it here as well, because a few hard nosed posters on here don't seem to comprehend the level of suffering of the Ukrainian children.

There are doubtless thousands more horror tales much worse than this account. But for all those on this thread who keep pushing the rhetoric that we should not intervene, just stop and think for just a moment - instead of believing at least you and your family would be safe if we sit back. You ignore it at your peril... it could be a child of yours that suffers in the future in this way if we let butchers terrorise the world unchallenged.

He is near guranteed to take at least Moldova if he gets Ukraine. There are Russian troops currently in the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria, fomenting trouble to serve as a pretext the same way Donbass and Luhansk have. There are Russian speakers in the eastern parts of Finland that I'm sure could come under attack from the not Russian Finns, and who obviously would need to be protected also.