Why do grown men actively prop up fellow grown men(rugby players, footballers)

completedit · 20-03-2022 7:15pm #1

Was watching Ireland vs Scotland the other day in rugby(passively) and was taking a scroll through some of the Irish rugby players Instagrams. Each one of them has pretty high follower counts and I can only imagine that a good few of the followers are probably fit girls. Are men so stupid that they would actually make heroes out of these guys thereby giving them access to the hottest girls? It boggles the mind. I've never been able to celebrity worship because you're just feeding into the inequality whereby some normie dude who happens to be able to throw a ball backwards, hit a ball into a net or hit a note gets a choice of women while some beer bellied schmuck in the pub signing Ireland's call while roaring for ORELAND to come on further cements this other grown mans status.

Humans are **** mental. The amount of things we do as a species that actively damage ourselves is mind-blowing. If these clowns stopped cheering from the sidelines like a bunch of clapping seals then these guys would just be regular guys playing a sport on the weekend but we actively feed into the idea that these pampered posh boys are modern day gladiators. LMAO. I'm picking on rugby for the purposes of this thread but could easily be GAA or soccer(which is a little different in Ireland) Only support yourself and nobody else. Unless Rob Henshaw is cheering you on week to week while you do project manage or close a few sales or whatever it is you do then put the Ireland jersey away and give "the match" a miss.

tabby aspreme · 20-03-2022 7:23pm

Sad Sad Sad

20-03-2022 7:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058238144/why-do-grown-men-actively-prop-up-fellow-grown-men-rugby-players-footballers

Normies.

Ffs.

Step away from the computer screen and Instagram chief. It's not doing you any good.

completedit · 20-03-2022 7:38pm

Just back from a 5k run followed by heavy deadlifts and pull ups. Plenty of time off the screen.

I like these sports don't get me wrong btw.

Still stihl waters 3 · 20-03-2022 7:41pm

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Didn't make the local 15 huh, you need more help than what deadlifts and pullups can do, you're a sad excuse for a man with all that insecurity

KieferFan69 · 20-03-2022 7:43pm

Powerful OP. Cogent message.

Leg End Reject · 20-03-2022 7:44pm

You're jealous of famous men, including rugby players and think that they're responsible for your lack of dating success.

Did you think this through before posting?

completedit · 20-03-2022 7:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811146#Comment_118811146

Sarcasm? It was pretty simply laid out. But I will repeat: Men create the social hierarchy which women pick up on and by glorifying these regular guys who happen to be able to throw a ball you actively put them above you on this ladder. I am curious as to why people do this when they basically get no return on this and actually just shoot themselves in the foot.

Rugby is an interesting sport because the fame is quite insular and it is only a small subset of the population who play the sport.

AyeGer · 20-03-2022 7:49pm

It’s a pass time, some people are rugby fans or amateur players themselves and appreciate the skill these top players have. I play golf as a pastime. I’ll never be great at it but I would cheer on Rory McIlroy or Shane Lowry. I was at Portrush when Shane won the British Open. The atmosphere was amazing. People were buzzing. What exactly is wrong with that. It was a great few days out.

walshb · 20-03-2022 7:49pm

Still trying to decipher this thread!😖

banie01 · 20-03-2022 7:53pm

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It's par for the course with the OP.

He can't develop a relationship with the opposite sex. Yet it's always someone elses fault. Spends far too long on elucidating why it's everyone else's fault, whilst being sure to mention his effort at self improvement...

But completely misses the point of why he consistently fails. Self reflection may be more warranted than self improvement or laying blame but that always seems to be a bridge to far.

20-03-2022 8:09pm

How would men ceasing to follow rugby stop the women from liking the players.? One does not follow the other

completedit · 20-03-2022 8:12pm

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They'd just be guys who have good bodies, still attractive to some women but giving them status and fame just undermines everyone's(include me) chances. I'm very aware of hierarchy and the idea of someone above me on the pecking order makes me sick. No hate to any of the players btw, more power to them.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 20-03-2022 8:14pm

what age are you OP? serious question, I'm curious

20-03-2022 8:15pm

You can't scrummage unless you prop up fellow grown men.

completedit · 20-03-2022 8:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811329#Comment_118811329

I am 32. Wiser and more insightful with every passing year. I always had a great feel for social dominance and hierarchy so I think that's why I found socialising quite jarring for much of my life. Some people don't get bothered by this but I do. I probably shouldn't use this site as a soapbox though but can be interesting to see if your thoughts strike a chord with anybody else. I genuinely find it hard to watch professional sports knowing what I know.

20-03-2022 8:17pm

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You just wish you could be impregnated by the rugby players and are just jealous of biological women

20-03-2022 8:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811333#Comment_118811333

You're 32 like running and weight d

What do you work at. What is the social dominance thing is it related to women

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-03-2022 8:35pm

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I used to be similar to you and realised I was just jealous, so moved on. The psychology of celebrity worship - be it rugby, football, sport, or any other sort of fame - is the same as any other kind of worship, people do anything to get closer to the idol, to the point of being in the same place as the idol and then becoming the idol.

As soon as you realise this, you then move on to working out that you don't actually want any of this, so you let it go. You transcend it. And you start focusing on you and who you are and what you want and not other people who want things they can't possibly have and, even if they did, wouldn't want it if they got it.

20-03-2022 8:38pm

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If this is a windup attempt its not a very good one. If its genuine, you probably need professional help (no offence).

20-03-2022 8:40pm

P

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811426#Comment_118811426

People who worship celebrities are just hoping some of the light will reflect on to them.

BrianD3 · 20-03-2022 8:43pm

Anyone who has a sky sports subscription is supporting extremely well paid sportspeople. Consuming professional sport is a vice/pastime/distraction. I agree with the OP that it is absurd but I still do it. I have sky sports and the main sports that I consume are F1, darts and golf. Of these, the only one that doesn't have ridiculous amount of money sloshing around is darts.

I draw the line at buying "merchandise" like a shirt with some millionaire's name on it.

I think a lot of people grow out of "following" the likes of the premiership and shouting at the TV. Some don't though, I know a fat, bald fella aged 50+ who wears Everton gear as much as he can, has his car bedecked with stickers and flags etc.

In the mid 80s, English first division footballers earned approx 3 times the average wage. By the mid 00s this was 45 times. And yet, the likes of yer man above is still "Everton till he dies"

completedit · 20-03-2022 8:46pm

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It's a difficult one. I watched Real Madrid vs PSG last week and I was blown away; I felt like a kid watching Benzema score those goals. But I have to keep such viewing to a minimum and in my view watching Real Madrid vs PSG is more removed than watching Ireland vs Scotland in rugby. I have hung out with girls that are either dating or have been with some of these rugby guys so it feels closer to home. But ultimately it is the same thing. I'd just prefer to focus on playing myself. I'll make exceptions depending on my mood.

The benefits accrued by the insiders of those successful in these sports is just too much nowadays and with Instagram their success is in our faces. There is a direct correlation between our investment in these things and the resulting success, both social and financial, enjoyed by those fortunate to be in this situation.

With music and film this is a thorny one. I don't have the ability to express myself in such a way but mostly these people seem to inhabit a different universe than me so I am able to forego my ego(sometimes) But when I read stories about celebrities it makes me sick as well. I just cannot deal with the power they hold.

completedit · 20-03-2022 8:56pm

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That's really interesting.

pah · 20-03-2022 9:14pm

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This is one of the strangest posts I've ever read.

The idolisation of "stars" and celebrity etc is very different to the supporting and cheering on of a team.

Sigh, I was going to type a massive reply here but what's the point?

completedit · 20-03-2022 9:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811621#Comment_118811621

That's an interesting distinction you make but a bit myopic. There's a direct cause and effect between supporting and fan worship and contributing to the superior social/lifestyle/financial gains of these people who happen to excel in said sport. Maybe most people don't care and that's fair enough but I do. As I said I am very aware of social status and the pecking order and don't like adversely contributing to my place on the ladder.

AyeGer · 20-03-2022 9:47pm

This thread could get philosophical, what is the purpose of life anyway when you think of it. Life can be tough for people, boring for some, people need distractions. They fill their time with all sorts of interests and pastimes.

I wouldn’t knock anyone for how they choose to entertain themselves so long as they aren’t harming anyone.

growleaves · 20-03-2022 9:47pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Md2vBiNm7W0

completedit · 20-03-2022 9:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811786#Comment_118811786

Yes! I remember this quote so well from watching this movie as a kid. Must have seeped into my subconscious.

20-03-2022 9:59pm

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Those actors earn so much money for just saying other people's words. Why would you prop them up and give them fame and make all the pretty ladies ignore you?

Padre_Pio · 20-03-2022 10:01pm

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completedit · 20-03-2022 10:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811836#Comment_118811836

I touched on this and it is a hard one to reconcile. I am selective with what I watch that's all I'll say.

Padre_Pio · 20-03-2022 10:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811844#Comment_118811844

Ehh what?

Actors "just say someone else's words"

If it was easy then everyone would be Tom Cruise.

If someone wants to celebrity worship then leave them to it, what harm.

20-03-2022 10:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811854#Comment_118811854

You missed my point.

20-03-2022 10:14pm

I'm very aware of hierarchy and the idea of someone above me on the pecking order makes me sick.

explain more about this

Montage of Feck · 20-03-2022 10:18pm

So it's Johny Sextons fault I'm single now?

billyhead · 20-03-2022 10:19pm

This is such a weird thread.

KieferFan69 · 20-03-2022 10:24pm

OP many people, like myself, enjoy thinking about Jamie heaslip banging business studies chicks in the boardroom.

Padre_Pio · 20-03-2022 10:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811915#Comment_118811915

Yep, the hundred or so famous Irish men (most of whom are married) are taking all the wimmins!

bejeezus · 20-03-2022 10:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811915#Comment_118811915

That made me lol. Even my -elderly- mother finds him attractive. 😍 I don’t get it!

completedit · 20-03-2022 10:40pm

thank god harems aren't normalised. they do exist but until conor murray is constructing an outhouse for his concubine we are okayish.

bejeezus · 20-03-2022 10:46pm

If I’m giving you advice, you know you’re feiced, but …it might not be their fault. It’s about as logical as blaming Johnny sexton for a headache. Makes no sense , OP.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-03-2022 11:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118811915#Comment_118811915

If he slept with your partner, yes.

20-03-2022 11:22pm

Bit ridiculous to be selective what you watch because of the actor's status

Did you ever go to therapy or would the therapist be higher on the pecking order?

Padre_Pio · 20-03-2022 11:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118812013#Comment_118812013

Jeez,one wife is bad enough. Imagine having three or four

bejeezus · 20-03-2022 11:25pm

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Only if he’s with a hottie! Did the OP not make that clear?? Lol. The therapist could be ok if he’s doing someone average, however. No ,but seriously , that post was messed up. You-like a lot of us- need to step back and get some perspective on the matter for sure

20-03-2022 11:59pm

I have never come across this thought process.. Limiting and being selective of one's viewing of sports and movies so as to not give the men in them too much fame lest they take all the women. Whilst casually browsing their Instagrams when watching.

bejeezus · 21-03-2022 12:10am

I would look at other reasons you’re single, other than random rugby players and their hangers on. Sure it’s ridiculous that women seem to like rugby players more than your average man, just because they’re higher profile and athletic. But it is a fact that they do. Life is superficial. As is dating. Maybe try to focus on the rest of your life?? And forget about dating for a while?? And it’s not just men who get rejected, OP.

Leg End Reject · 21-03-2022 12:10am

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Imagine the horror if the therapist was dating a rugby player and their photo was on Instagram?

We need to be careful here!

bejeezus · 21-03-2022 12:26am

Life IS crappy, OP, but try and get a therapist on the cheap and change your perspective at least.

Loafing Oaf · 21-03-2022 12:31am

Well it can be very useful in the lineout...

Why do grown men actively prop up fellow grown men(rugby players, footballers)

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