Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

You’re reading it correctly, but due to what appears to be their own blind spot, I don’t think that poster is aware of the fundamental flaw upon which their argument is built -

If there is unfairness, it is because there is difference.

I genuinely don’t think it’s intentional, it’s just such a lack of understanding of how discrimination and prejudice is perpetuated.

It’s not that life isn’t fair, it’s that people make rules which are unfair. The whole idea of anti-discrimination legislation recognises that people are different, and the law prohibits organisations and employers and so on from treating people unfavourably on the basis of any of the protected characteristics recognised in law.

I’m not put off by the stupidity of their argument (they’ll see what I did there 😏), but the bit about having to accept being treated unfairly while also implying that if the people being discriminated against weren’t treated unfairly, they would be responsible for harming others… I get the logic behind it, but I don’t think that poster understands the implications, rather they see discrimination and unfair treatment as some sort of benign idea that’s good for the majority of people in society or some shyte.

It’s a good thing for me that my mother didn’t listen to sort of shyte, and insisted I be educated in a mainstream school with other children, as well as educating me herself, and so when @Shield or anyone else points out that I’m being incoherent or my posts are too long to read, I know at least it has nothing to do with being dyslexic, because they couldn’t know that, and so I’m not being treated unfairly or any differently to anyone else. They’d say the same of anyone else rambling on 😂

I can’t say the same for my experiences in employment (I’ve been incredibly fortunate though that employers provided private healthcare insurance) where I have been discriminated against unfairly on account of struggling at times, it’s difficult to hide something you have no control over. But nowadays because of having met and knowing people who are more understanding and who didn’t treat me unfairly in employment, it’s easier to talk about things openly and not feel like I’m being a burden to others and being told that it’s unfair on everyone else if I’m expecting special treatment, when it wouldn’t be necessary to put that responsibility on anyone if everyone is treated fairly in the first place and nobody is subjected to discrimination because of a policy which is upheld by tradition and prejudice.

There will be edge cases, but in general, men are stronger/faster/bigger than women.

Sports often relies on strength/speed and size, especially at the elite level.

Just for an example, would you advocate that a woman fights a man in a pro boxing match or in the UFC?

In the trans-gender debate, its never transgender women competing with men and winning, it's always the other way around. Why is that? I honestly don't care about this debate, but the circles' people try and square reminds me that it's becoming a bit of religion to some.

Gender has quite a bit to do with medicine, science, law and indeed if you were to combine all three disciplines, it becomes a specialised field of study all of it’s own -

https://www.ul.ie/gps/course/sport-exercise-and-performance-psychology-msc

Free will and all but..

Curious. Why not?

Depends

Depends

Medical science uses a working definition of gender, that evolves with greater understanding of gender -

Importantly, the committee emphasized that neither the health of women nor men is simply a product of biology but is also influenced by sociocultural and psychological experience. To differentiate between these broad areas of investigation, the members created working definitions of “sex” — when referring to biology — and “gender” — when referring to self-representation influenced by social, cultural, and personal experience. 

The committee advised that scientists use these definitions in the following ways:

In the study of human subjects, the term sex should be used as a classification, generally as male or female, according to the reproductive organs and functions that derive from the chromosomal complement [generally XX for female and XY for male].

In the study of human subjects, the term gender should be used to refer to a person's self-representation as male or female, or how that person is responded to by social institutions on the basis of the individual's gender presentation.

In most studies of nonhuman animals, the term sex should be used.

These working definitions were a good start in recognizing the value of studying sex and gender and their interactions, yet they were always meant to evolve. Now, we are learning more about ourselves and so must adapt our terminology to be inclusive, respectful, and more accurate.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/

Defining gender isn’t without it’s problems though, but it’s more the implications of how gender is defined is only one part of a much larger problem within the medical and scientific domains, largely influenced in Western medicine and science by the works of some rather unscrupulous characters based upon their own personal beliefs of what constitutes gender. People such as John Money for example, and the experiments he conducted in order to support his theories -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

The evidence didn’t support his theories, but that didn’t stop him, nor did it stop the people who were later influenced by his theories, and that was just one individuals influence on scientific and medical developments in the study of sex, gender and psychology.

"The committee advised that scientists..."

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and surmise that scientists don't need to be advised of which terms to use when terms are factual and scientific.

The current redefinition of gender renders the term useless as it is subject to change without any factual definition. Might as well base it on tea leaves.

"Now, we are learning more about ourselves and so must adapt our terminology to be inclusive, respectful, and more accurate."

I somehow feel that accuracy and scientific fact are taking a backseat to inclusivity and respect.

"As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time."

By this definition, I and the many others who dont believe in people being able to define their own gender have just as much right to say that gender = sex. My society follows my beliefs, what gives you the right to say that my opinion is wrong and yours is right?

Excellent strawman talking about some societies punishing people though!

In pretty much every biological, factual definition there will be outliers, this isnt maths, they dont disprove anything.

I get the feeling that people such as yourself wont be happy until everything is a spectrum and a basic conversation becomes a tedious exercise of navigating the current wave of nonsense pronouns....all in the name of inclusivity.

You might as well sure. In the meantime, both science and medicine have developed guidelines based upon ethics which do inhibit how far they are permitted to go in conducting scientific and medical research, precisely because of the unethical behaviour and malpractice of a few scientists and medical professionals who don’t adhere to the guidelines and standards of their profession when dealing with human beings -

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3574464/

It’s for this reason you won’t ever see the kind of experiments on humans conducted by the likes of people like John Money and the few other people who subjected people to abhorrent abuse and torture in the pursuit of furthering their own personal beliefs -

The psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. The academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimer's realization that he was not a girl crystallized between the ages of 9 and 11 years[2]and he transitioned to living as a male at age 15. Well known in medical circles for years anonymously as the "John/Joan" case, Reimer later went public with his story to help discourage similar medical practices. At age 38, he committed suicide after suffering severe depression.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

That Katie Taylor argument is such a strawman.

I, a man, who is unfit and has no training, would get destroyed by Katie Taylor (undisputed world champion) in a boxing match.

Katie Taylor would be knocked out by every male professional fighter in her weight class. The male champions would all do it within two rounds, likely in the first.

The same as saying that Thomas came 8th in the last race, so clearly doesn't have physical advantages, but fails to consider that distance racing is Thomas' specialty, not sprints.

Selemon Barega is unlikely to beat Elaine Thompson-Herah in the 100m sprint, but was more than two minutes quicker than Sifan Hassan over 10,000m.

Ah come on now. Some people here take issue with literally everything and anything trans related.