What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Yes, what percentage ( I believe it will be high ) will apply for leave to remain ? If Russia, stands down, withdraws…. It could easily flare up again.

while here the Ukraine visitors will get used life here, feel safe here, will become accustomed to our social welfare system, free healthcare, comfortable standards of living, amenities, far from the threat of Russia why wish to return ? Some will but I’ve a feeling a big enough percentage will seek leave to remain.

The more the merrier for them, certainly. :)

the more also, the greater challenge to the wellbeing of us Irish people,, which has being eroded over time already… and will continue to be as politicians make these decisions to compromise our wellbeing.

a 5% population increase over a few weeks and months for a country this size and all will be exclusively depending on this state, for everything…. So a fair number will stay and will be of that ability as has been acknowledged.

you choose to dress it up in disingenuous terms, I’ll stick to what’s happening.

There was an article last week saying it'll cost an average of 33k a head to accommodate each refugee in a hotel for a year. Welfare, children's allowance , medical cards, extra teachers etc etc on top of that. The children's hospital will be peanuts in comparison.

The government don't intend to pay a subsidy to house owners for hosting which is very unfair if the alternative is 33k a year in a hotel. The Brits are giving 350£ a month to owners.

I know you can't answer this, but I'm slightly concerned about how this will play out.

Most / almost all the Ukrainian refugees are women with young children or older people of pensionable age. Given these demographics, I'm struggling to see how they will fill skills shortages in the Irish economy, which are primarily in construction and food processing, plus tech and health care. It's fair to say that few young mothers will be lining up to work on building sites or in an abattoir. In fact, I read a report from Poland that quite a few construction projects have halted there because such a large number of Ukrainian men returned home to fight.

Tech and health care require specialized skills that only a relatively small % of any population possesses. That's before we even contemplate the language barrier...

My overriding sense here is that the government is in panic mode and hasn't a clue what they are doing. I happened to catch the Roderick O'Gorman interview on Newstalk whilst driving home yesterday evening. To say that he does not inspire confidence, is a gross understatement.

Personally, I'm very concerned about how this is evolving. The projected numbers have grown exponentially from 10k to 20K to 80K to 100K and now to 200K. As somebody with young children, I'm also worried about the impact this will have on access to educational and medical services going forward.

You are quite right to be concerned, because we are staring into an abyss.

if I was a teacher, would I bust my hole encouraging Irish kids to do their best ? Doesn’t feel right enabling them with false hope…

ultimately, now…

get sick, you are fûcked

look for a chosen college place, you are fûcked…

stiiting on roads and in public transport for an inordinately large percentage of your week…

if current Ireland is getting bleak, future Ireland will certainly be more bleak, more unfair, more against opportunities for taxpayers…

You really don't know what I mean when I imply that the number of young mothers and pensioners willing and able to work on building sites and in meat processing plants is likely to be negligible? Seriously?

This is nothing like Covid. What the Irish government is proposing to do, is to increase the population of this country by up to 5%, within a few short months. 'DaCor' do you have children? Can you honestly not see how people trying to raise young families and secure them access to a decent education and health care might be concerned by this proposal? 'It'll be grand' just doesn't cut it.

I have immense sympathy for people fleeing the conflict in Ukraine. However, 200K is an utterly insane number for this country to absorb. Let's be clear here. This is not a short term emergency resettlement. A statistically significant % will remain in Ireland indefinitely. I have zero confidence in the political class in this country not to transform this into a total s**t show.

This will be very different, the legacy of this could be felt for decades.

As you said, this is an utterly unprecedented situation. Never in the history of this state has anything close to 200K people arrived on our shores in the space of a few short months. You simply have no idea if "it'll be grand". Given O'Gorman's performance yesterday and the track record of this government, this will do a lot more than put some pressure on services.

So I ask you again. Do you have young children whose welfare is your top priority? Are you already struggling to find a home in a horribly tight housing market? Do have have an elderly parent, whose access to a woefully deficient health service, is a constant worry?

I reiterate; 'it'll be grand' doesn't cut it. I want to see a solid plan from this government on how they plan to deal with a potentially 5% growth in the population of this country. I want assurances that my family's access to education and health care will not be compromised.