Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Don’t forget we have three CB’s and N Williams on loan in the Championship then there is also R Williams.

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and delete the saved draft

Ignore that I am blaming Covid for reading your post wrong.

It's to delete the link bit, I managed to get rid of the draft, you tap and hold the link and normally a little bin icon comes up and you just delete it...

The bin icon is not coming up, I had to flag my own post to see can the mods delete it, you can't actually delete a whole post...

@Dav010 That cucumber vid is mental, some of the stuff that gets sent around 😂

I think Gomez will be kept another year at least... he's one of only 3 club trained players, so if we lose him we're down to a 23 man Champions League squad (plus kids).

This has really been a recovery year for him anyway, so I don't think it's a true reflection of his standing in the club. He's had a lot of niggly setbacks throughout. It's only recently that he's been available to make a few appearances reasonably close together.

I can see Klopp convincing Gomez to stay. Matip wont have a long career and he could break at anytime.

Gomez should use this time to work on his body and his chance will come. He was over played as a youngster and after injuries. Now he has a chance to make that back.

Stay with Liverpool, have a long career, win trophies. Move, shorten your career and with nothing.

He should look at Carragher's career trajectory and see how a club legend had to over come challenge after challenge.

Slightly younger, but nowhere near as robust. I'd be surprised if Matip remains fit enough to play 70%+ of matches a season for another 4 or 5 years like we'd expect out of Virg. This year has been the exception of the past 3... he's already played quite a few more games this season than the previous two put together. I'd love for this run he's on to continue, he's brilliant, but it probably makes sense to err on the side of caution.

There was an AMA over on Reddit with one of the Squawka guys. One of the questions was in relation to the defensive side of TAAs game. I've copied the question and answer below.

Thanks for your time, Jake. There's been a lot of criticism from pundits towards Trent for his defensive side of the game. Klopp is adamant Trent is not a defensive liability. What do the stats say?

No problem at all, I love doing this.

For this, we'll look at his tackling stats, specifically **True Tackle Success**. Warning: this will turn into a long message but I hope you find everything interesting and valuable.

This is different to what you will find on the Premier League website, for example. They use **Tackles Won** but there is something everyone needs to know about tackle definitions. They do not really make much sense. I've pasted the Opta explanation below, but more information can be found [here](https://www.statsperform.com/opta-event-definitions/).

> A tackle won is deemed to be where the tackler or one of his team-mates regains possession as a result of the challenge, or that the ball goes out of play and is “safe”.

> A tackle lost is where a tackle is made but the ball goes to an opposition player.

> Both are deemed as successful tackles however, the outcome of the tackle (won or lost) is different based on where the ball goes after the tackle.

So, **True Tackle Success** is calculated by dividing **Successful Tackles Made** by **Total Tackle Attempts**.

A *Successful Tackle* is made up of **Tackles Won + Tackles Lost**. **Total Tackle Attempts** is actually made up of four different metrics: **Tackles Won** + **Tackles Lost** + **Fouls from Attempted Tackles** + *Challenges Lost (a.k.a Times Dribbled Past).**

With all of that out of the way, here's how TAA compares to AWB for all those tackling stats.

**TAA vs AWB in the Premier League since 2018/19**

* Tackles Attempted per 90: 2.9-4.1

* Successful Tackles Made per 90: 1.6-3.2

* Fouls from Attempted Tackles per 90: 0.25-0.48

* Times Dribbled Past per 90: 0.98-0.41

* True Tackle Success Rate: 57%-78%

It's important to note that AWB has made the most tackles and has the best tackle success rate of any full-back with 1,200 minutes in Europe's top five leagues since 2018/19. So, TAA stacks up quite well.

And here is the True Tackle Success rate of some other full-backs in that time:

* Andy Robertson = 58.3%

* Achraf Hakimi = 57.1%

* João Cancelo = 55.4%

* Reece James = 53.8%

* Kyle Walker = 53.6%

So while tackling is not the only metric you should use to measure someone's defensive quality, to suggest Trent is below average in this regard is pretty silly.

And even if he was operating at 30%, he's so good at what he is in the team to do that Jürgen Klopp probably wouldn't care.

I'd have said he covers more ground with his forward marches than any of our CBs.

Won 2-0. Minamino was subbed off on 84 mins and his replacement got both goals 😄

Gomez out on loan is best option I think, unless we get a ridiculous offer for him I don't see the benefit in selling him. It was only 2 years ago he was part of a league winning partnership and looked excellent.

Disgusting bollix that they are doing that just stealing from the most naive and vulnerable

I'm not a fan of that whole NFT angle myself either.

Give me a €500 and I tell you then you can ask someone for €500 and you can tell them.

One of the pods was saying the last Preimer League meeting the clubs had in London something like 80% of that meeting was taken up by the clubs discussing NFT's and Crypto and how they could make money from them.

The Preimer League also claimed ownership and copyright on John Terry's NFT's that involved him using the Preimer League trophy so he had to remove it from sale.

There's nothing inherently wrong with NFT's - it's just a technology that secures ownership rights of a 'thing', and that thing can be real, or digital. Once something, anything, has been 'minted' an NFT, then the sale of that thing is very securely recorded. It's not a bad technology in and of itself.

The problem is that in these reasonably early 'wild west' days of it, because its new and shiny, people are 'NFT'ing all sorts of nonsense that has no value, and other people are buying them not knowing any better. Pictures of cartoon apes going for tens of thousands, because some people just have tens of thousands laying around to spend and speculate on. The trickle down is that more regular people then get caught up in the excitement of it, and think there's money to be made, when in 99% of cases there is not. It's like the regular art market (which is already so arbitrary and nuts) but kicked into total overdrive, and marketed to the masses.

As long as they're selling the NFT's as just another bit of merch and don't in any way use the term investment around it I don't really have much of a problem with it. And they specifically say they should be seen as collectibles and not an investment in the press release. No different than buying a poster/painting of a player in cartoon form. It's just digital now.

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No point in looking that far ahead , Basically if we lose to City in the league game its all over before it even starts ,

Lets just beat Watford & try not lose away to Benfica , Then go form there ,

Absolutely have to look ahead. You can guarantee that Klopp is. He has his Man City league team picked and is working backwards from that as to who can play where in what game. Every manager will have a rough idea of what sort of rotation he can do and where he can do it, when a fixture list is this packed.

You can't just pick an 11 for a game and then see afterwards who is tired or can they all play again in a few days time and again a few days time again after that. They will all be burnt out by mid April if that is the case. There has to be a plan in place.

I'd actually be looking to the Watford game for rotation for a start. Especially with Salah & Mane playing 2 important games in the lead up to it, and it being the early kick off. They can both start the Benfica game and Man City games that week instead. This would mean that they would both be starting 3 games in 12 games rather than starting 4 games in 12 days, before playing against Man City. Add in the travelling involved too. It would mean that they are fresher for the City game, which is vastly more important that Watford.

He sat out those games as he was injured. Mane was rested for Forest alright.

Salah is about to play games tonight, and again midweek. He can always come off the bench for 20-30 mins against Watford. I think he will be fine for rhythm going into the Benfica game and then Man City. It's not like he is coming in cold from 3 weeks off.

With Diaz, Salah & Mane all playing 2 important games in far away locations, 2 of them are gonna have to be rotated out for the Watford game IMO. Firmino will start and then probably Jota as his 2nd game is on Tuesday in a closer location.

Also, it's Watford.