What are your thoughts on the fertiliser price s for 2022

Just after buying 8 ton of 28-2.5-5 in bulk to be collected from merchant, 1100 euros, he's two artic loads coming in and that's the last bit of fertilizer he'll be able to get his hands on for the foreseeable if at all, the draw on money at the minute is getting out of hand, between that bit of fertilizer, what's already in the yard and a bulk load of meal after just been delivered their is circa 85k's worth of fert and feed in the yard...

8 tonne for 1100 ….dose he have any more ………..your right tho a massive draw on cash flow atm but if one can draw a positive it’s in the fact that you actually have the fertiliser ….there’s a lot of lads going to be in some hole because either fertiliser won’t be there to be got or the price will be out of reach and not economically viable …..I have fertiliser and bank of feed in yard ….and will add a fair wedge over comming months but what’s worrying me is facing inti spring summer 23 with feed and fertiliser at todays or higher level and an easing milk price

What way would they implement that?

Imports would have to be exempt…so only exports, ie. Irish produced food, could be controlled by gov?

Is the demand and money out there to drive prices up high enough?

People have no choice but to buy diesel but food can be substituted to some degree for cheaper products

Don't know either, but the high end sports supplements, powder to African countries will surely struggle to rise much while keeping volume steady.

Consumer products will probably see more of a shift toward own brand lower margin lines.

But would think beef margins will be slower to rise with inputs

Yep, the rise of the "they're all agin us" brigade, has been facilitated by social media.

Listening to the two johnnies in the cab of the digger they drive for their wages whilst making stupid ignorant assumptions rather than actually learning about the industry they're in.

Any shred of credibility that organisation had is gone after thus kind of bullsh1t.

It makes it harder for the rest of us to fight the nonsense we're looking at in that other thread here about being "sick of propping up unproductive farmers" when this is the level from within the industry.

Then - the main organisations aren't much better, with the exception of ICMSA who actually advocate properly for their members.

The rest of us are properly f**ked with this level of representation.

The independent farmers article is one step up from piseogery.

TBF Selling Fertilizer is a thin margin business for the merchant. If they have not abused the market before now why would it be advantageous to do it this year. Their sales in volume are gone down, meal volumes will fall too and if they are given credit on sales it doesn't bode well for their business model. Fertilizer is just expensive this year to rising gas prices and the war in Ukraine.  

I don't doubt you and I'm sure it has happened in more than your place but an independent enquiry as called for is a stretch too far.

Not saying the lads are right but

Everything farmers buy goes up quicker than it goes down.

Everything a farmer sells goes down quicker than it goes up.

Look at the diesel going up overnight.

Remember spring 2021. Fellas bought CAN for €205. Less than 18 months ago!!

I can still get CAN for 205 euros but it all goes in the boot.