The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Matt Ryan traded to the Colts for a 3rd round pick

Thats a great bit of business by the Colts considering they got two 3rd round picks for Wentz, a much worse QB, from the Commanders.

Ryan should still have a few years left in his tank, particularly with way more talent around him at the Colts than he had in Atlanta.

I'm not sure what you're basing that on. His performances have been quite consistent over the last 14 years bar two outlier very high performance seasons:

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He could have physically declined massively in the 2021 season at 36, but given his well known physical health (hes only missed 1 game since 2010) and how well managed the bodies of top level QBs are these days its far more likely that the complete lack of talent around him at Atlanta was the problem either way.

I'd wager the Colts probably plan on keeping him for the two remaining years on his cheap (for them, given the Falcons are eating a big chunk of it) contract at the least. Then possibly extend based on performances go. Maybe draft a young QB next year to sit for a year under him.

The Hunt thing was very minor. It doesn't compare in any form to the Watson situation.

He pushed her, it's not like he hit her and she was no saint either. It was nothing, the kick was very minor, no viciousness in it at all.

He shouldn't be acting like that but none of them should have been acting the way they were.

And suggesting that I'm some weirdo is insulting.

You seem to insult posters a lot like you feel you are better than everybody else or know more than everybody else but you really are clueless.

I remember our discussion about rookie QB's last year. How's that working out for you? Iirc all the guys you thought were good did nothing and the guy you berated was the best rookie QB.

I'm not condoning it. I'm saying it doesn't compare with the stuff that's going on with Watson.

I don't know how you can read what I wrote and come to the conclusion that I'm condoning violence.

It was like something that you'd see among people that spend a lot of time in prison. All of them, not just Hunt. There was no innocent party in that video. What I said is that there was no serious assault, it was all pretty minor. Like that video wouldn't get anybody jailed.

The Ray Rice one was much worse, horrendous.

And how do you end up in the American football forum? Are you a second account for somebody else who may have forgot to log out and log back in with their other account?

It's so hard to keep teams together past rookie contracts with a salary cap. Chiefs best bet is to keep Mahomes on a big contract, then rotate in WR's/RB's who want to come in to compete for a ring.

Alanta are going to go into full rebuild mould - they will use this year to clear the big contracts and dead-cap liabilities - then tank and take one of the QBs in the draft next year. Then they will hope to draft a fanchise QB - have him for 5 years on a rookie contract, sign vets in FA to build around him, then sign the QB to a long terms contract, kick the can down the road with voidable years - and hope to get a 10-15 year run of contention before they have to go through the process again.

Firstly on Hunt. The woman kept forcing her way back to Hunt in an aggressive manner too. It wasn't one-sided. When Hunt got free he pushed her a couple of times. Then he kicked her with no power in it. It was wrong but it wasn't outrageous, you wouldn't get a conviction and jail time in any court based on the video evidence we all saw.

As for the QB stuff, you constantly stated that Jones won't make it because he doesn't run.

As a matter of fact you are completely clueless about the QB position in a team. A QB doesn't need to run to be great. Old man Brady was in the conversation for MVP last season, old man Rodgers who rarely runs these days was MVP for the second straight season.

For the umpteenth time in the last ten years the Superbowl was contested between two teams with pocket passers at QB.

We I don't spend any time reading the 49ers thread. I an talking about other threads. Maybe you have a spilt personality in different threads?

Sounds like all those posts were made when you thought Jones was going to be a 49er.

As for Hunt, I love the way you continue to accuse me of stuff but run away when I put you in a corner. You can't sit that they were all acting disgracefully.

Also love the way you pick out one QB that I was wrong about though imo not that much wrong because I still don't rate Murray. I do believe that if Haskins has his head screwed on now, we didn't know about his immaturity at the time I posted that, that he will become a really good QB.

I notice you didn't mention where I said Derek Carr was the best QB in his draft class or that Winston and Mariota weren't first round picks or that Sam Bradford wasn't worth it due to his injury history or how much I liked Russell Wilson or that Andrew Luck was the best QB to come out of college for years. How about where I said that Geno Smith was an awful pick or when I said that Matt Ryan would have a great career.

You missed out on my thoughts on Jonny Manziel and Mark Sanchez both of who I rated highly, surprised you missed those.

I never claimed to be a guru by the way, I just said you were absolutely clueless about the position.

The Chiefs were "lucky" with Hill's past indiscretions, it meant they got his post-rookie contract relatively cheap as well. They won't get a like-for-like replacement but hopefully Hardman can step up a bit more and they've also picked up Marquez Valdes-Scantling today which isn't too bad.

I actually hope they use the draft to improve the defense, they picked up two starters in last year's edition (Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith). Throw in Willie Gay and Nick Bolton, who I love, and there's good foundations. The secondary needs a lot of work though.

Wouldn't be surprised if they trade up too.

I'll he very happy that you are no longer reading my posts.

Clearly when somebody tells you something that you don't like you get in a huff but it's okay for you to insult and belittle people regularly and act as if your opinion is above everybody else's.

Anyways you have no clue about the QB position and I'll leave it at that.

Didn’t watch it but apparently from people who watched it today the Deshaun Watson press conference in Cleveland earlier today was a **** train wreck in PR terms.

The Chiefs pick up Ronald Jones to add to their RB stocks with CEH and Gore. Hill aside, they're making some nice moves in free agency and are getting younger in a few positions. Then we have the draft to come with 12 picks.

Why don't you tell us what your old name on boards was? I doubt you only joined boards for the first time in March.

Is it a case that you are using two accounts side by side?

I'm just asking you to be honest.

Devante Adams and Tyreek Hill have looked like two of the best receivers in the league over the past few years. We have to remember though that they were the favourite receivers for two great QB's.

Rodgers lost Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson over the years and they didn't do much after leaving.

Brady lost Deoin Branch and Wes Welker and neither did much.

Jimmy Graham was a superstar with Drew Brees but fell off a cliff when he left the Saints.

It'll be interesting to see how Adams and Hill do without their All-pro QB'S.

Just so you know there's a guy called nedsnotdead on boards.ie. You've probably never heard of him though. 😁

The list of people who match productivity with a new team is fairly small. Age is one thing but familiarity with a system/QB really does matter a lot in the NFL. We always get excited when a player hits a new team, but the reality is they rarely live up to previous highs. Especially when you're moving from a HOF QB to a middle of the pack QB.