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  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Whoa, stall up there lad. The Poles might have something to say about a Ukrainian land bridge to Kaliningrad.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Expect Putin and his lackies to turn up at the UN demanding all of their stolen equipment back



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭jmreire


    That has not worried him in the past...sending in raw recruits into full out war was proof of that. And if he does resort to chemical weapons, and kills his own soldiers as well as Ukrainians, he will do as he has been doing all along.....blame it on the Nazi's. But ftr sure, he wont lose any sleep over it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It was in the Russian Plans,

    But come on It's not as if they have the ability or numbers to get to Poland in the first place



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Longing


    Gladly. When you repair every building in Ukraine. ;)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Reports of some Russian missles having a failure rate of 60% , but not uncommon in Georgia it was reported that 70% of missles missed their Targets and a similar number of those that missed a target failed to detonate .




  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,134 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I'd love to see him walking through the streets of New York heading to the UN's HQ hoping he can call out "diplomatic immunity" as US armed forces encircle him



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I say America cannot believe there luck with how badly this war is going for Russia. They literally only have to supply the Ukrainian military with weapons and ammo and real time information like satellite images etc. Thousands of dead and wounded Russians and destroyed armour. America did not have to put any boots on the ground or the likes so no loss there at all. Russia after this will be 20 years put back. This is the best news America could of dreamed for. You can even see where this is heading in regards to China, America is coming out with string statements against them and so are other countries. After this war Russia will be in no position to worry America and I can see a lot more words and pressure etc. are put towards China from America and its allies as they don't have to worry with Russia after this Ukrainian fiasco their military and country have done. I say China are starting to realise this now, if Russia looses this war and Russia is in such a weakened state America can now turn its attention fully towards China and not have to worry about Russia for many a year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Longing


    That's concerning western intelligence have clearly got some concrete info that Russia has moved these weapons or someone from the inside. Either way for me if that happened all gloves are off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭threeball


    China must be rubbing their hand with glee over what's transpired over the last 4 weeks. Their position as number 2 superpower is now beyond doubt. Russia barely qualify anymore and its quite conceivable that they're as low as 7th or 8th.

    On top of that they can demand cheaper fuel as Europe weans itself away from Russia.

    An added bonus is that India is now shown up as weak also. 80% of their weapons come from Russia which have proved themselves to be utter junk in comparison to what's available from the western countries. You'd be better off with 10 Abrams tanks than 50 Russian suicide boxes.

    The only downside was the unity the west has shown but the lack of direct intervention is something they'll see as a significant bonus knowing that sanctions against them would be next to impossible without the world economy imploding.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,465 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    A position of #2 (or any number) has never been tested - hell they are scared of trying to invade Taiwan, the Indian scuffles they have had have not ended well for them



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭threeball


    Also, how can a country with such a mickey mouse economy qualify to sit at the G8 when there a dozens of countries with more financial might.

    It's time to examine their special privilege such as UN security Council seat, UN veto power and position as a G8 country. They by no metric deserve to be an automatic inclusion purely based on historic strength.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Chemical weapons,

    For when one side in a war wishes to remove any lingering doubt that they're the baddies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Every country has its weak points and China is sitting right now on top of a gigantic property bubble that if they can't deflate slowly will utterly trash their economy should it burst. Much smaller targeted sanctions would pop that bubble and implode most if not all of their bluster. Right now they can't rock any boats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35,961 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Who knows what Putin is planning, the losses are mouthing everyday, and his excuses for war have been proven to be paranoia, after all that he has done, both the West, and Ukraine haven't shot a single bullet on Russian soil. Russian shares a border with China, and North Korea, countries with Nuclear weapons, maybe he should be more concerned about them, not a peaceful Ukraine.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone been watching Storyville on BBC2 tonight about Dozhd, an independent start up TV station in Russia that got on the wrong side of Putin? Would recommend. Really feel for the young, naive, people who were trying to start something



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    China don't know how to fight a war - they may well have gear, but until they take it for a spin, quite how they perform is an open and unanswered question. Unlike the US, which is professional from top to bottom, the Chinese army is riddled with corruption and CCP sleazes on the make. Chinese national morale is an open question as well, when the only sons start coming back in boxes (or not at all) don't underestimate the widespread cultural effect of that.

    A lot of American power projection ability is their logistics capacity, which is unmatched. Quite how China would perform attempting even to take Taiwan on this front is another matter of uncertainty. Russia just had to cross a border and they're floundering; the Chinese have to mount a massive naval operation across a treacherous straight, establish a credible landing party that doesn't get lit up immediately, and then supply them to take an island that has been prepping militarily for half a century.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    You can imagine a few Russian soldiers asking each other over the last while




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @threeball China must be rubbing their hand with glee over what's transpired over the last 4 weeks. Their position as number 2 superpower is now beyond doubt. Russia barely qualify anymore and its quite conceivable that they're as low as 7th or 8th.

    Before this Russia was about 8th on the superpower scale , it's safe to say they not even top 10 and it's going to get worse the longer this goes on ,

    Remember Russia wanted to get India to help develop their new Su57 stealth fighter and in return Russia would sell India ships for their navy ,now it turns out Russia's super duper stealth fighter can be detected and tracked by 4th Generation fighter aircraft , which Russia spent billions for 6 aircraft that is no better than their current generation of fighter jets,and China is no better they for a number of years tried to develop their own rifle for their military again big spend compared to others but recently they went back to AK and M4 copy rifles because their home grown rifles were terrible , everything else is stolen from other countries and untested in combat compared to western countries and America who have developed their systems of decades and and know how and where and when to use specific air, naval , ground units,

    China is pretty much untested since the end of the Korean war



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    Bit of a strange one.

    This is from the 'manila bulletin website. Dated March 17. It's the latest information I can see.


    A Korean YouTuber and former Korean Navy officer who went to Ukraine to help the country fight the war against Russia is facing imprisonment in South Korea after he and two colleagues violated a government-imposed travel ban.


    Rhee Ken, 37, and his two companions went to Ukraine. He announced on March 6 that he was leaving for Ukraine to be a volunteer soldier. They arrived in Ukraine on March 7.

    He runs the YouTube channel Rokseal and is a founder of the military consulting firm Rokseal. His bio on the company website listed Rhee as UDT/Seal Platoon Commander of Special Missions Unit, Seal Delivery Vehicle Unit and Naval Special Warfare Center; private military contractor; DOS security investigator; United Nations security officer; and Rokseal founder.

    However, his two companions left Ukraine and arrived in South Korea on March 16, leaving Rhee by himself.

    “My teammates have safely left Ukraine, and I am here by myself now. There is a lot to do here,” said Rhee in an Instagram post, according to the Korea JoongAng Daily.

    In South Korea, Rhee is facing imprisonment, fine and cancellation of his passport for violating the government travel ban to Ukraine.

    Last Feb. 12, the Korean government imposed a Level 4 restriction (travel ban) for all Korean nationals from going to Ukraine starting on Feb. 13 due to the situation in that country.

    Rhee went to Ukraine without the Korean government’s permission. According to a post by Korea’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, if a Korean national goes to Ukraine without permission, he will be subjected to criminal punishment and administrative sanctions for violating the country’s passport law.

    If found guilty, Rhee may be imprisoned for up to one year or subjected to a fine of 10 million won ($8.249).

    The Korean government may order Rhee to return his passport. If not returned, the passport will be canceled. Rhee’s application for a new passport may be rejected or restricted.

    Last March 8, the foreign affairs ministry stated that “recently, there was a media report that Korean citizens entered Ukraine without permission to participate in the Ukrainian government foreign corps without obtaining permission to use an exceptional passport.”

    It reiterated the criminal and administrative punishments that may be imposed on any citizen violating the travel ban to Ukraine.

    The foreign ministry filed a complaint with the police on March 10 against Rhee and his two companions.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,571 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    They've captured a load of useless junk.

    The proliferation of precision guided anti-tank weapons has rendered tanks and vehicles obsolete. If you're a Russian soldier in hostile territory, do you really want to be sat in an extremely slow vehicle, with limited line of sight, and effectively no armour resistance (the Javelin missile strikes from above where there's basically no armour). Sure, they have big guns, but what are they shooting at? Young lads in a ditch with an anti-tank weapon on their shoulder?

    Apparently the Russian troops are camped out in NW-Kiev, sitting in their vehicles with the engines on (because they're cold). Even at night, they're sitting ducks, thermal imaging isn't expensive these days. A Ukrainian with a bicycle and an NLAW is essentially as effective as a T-whatever-you-want.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭threeball


    Yes but we can't afford to pop that bubble either as we're sitting on mountains of debt ourselves in the west and rely on cheap Chinese goods to keep the show on the road.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,465 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I remember back in the day when you bought something and it would last forever...

    Insert Simpsons Grandpa gif



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Capturing tanks is still worthwhile even if it's only to rip stuff out of them and render them inoperable for any potential aggressor (especially one who's having a hard time sourcing replacement parts).



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That Korean story doesn’t really sit very well when you consider that South Korea depends enormously on US military support to avoid issues with DPRK.



  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭arthursway


    Has this 40 mile convoy disappeared or was it ever even there?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's spread out a little more around Kiev but they went from being 15km to Kiev to 50 km to Kiev and likely will be pushed back even further



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,571 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    For sure, it's good to deny the enemy mobility. I am just making the point that a lot of the vehicles that are being abandoned are basically useless in this sort of war. When you look at all the surveillance that's going on, hopping into a vehicle looks an awful lot like death sentence to me.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,708 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Somebody should have told the Russians. Could have left them back at the depot and had them melted down into baby formula.



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