Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Similarly, know someone who's on their second dose within 2½ weeks, struck down a bit worse the second time, although she was double vaccinated but not boosted.

That's great, building up natural immunity before the vaccines wear off, they will have no bother next winter when those that haven't had it will be facing it.

Vaccination we know prevents severe cases but you can still catch it. A severe case means hospitalisation. Self-diagnosing as feeling awful is not severe. There is unquestionably a level of psychosomatic responses to COVID because we have a much higher fear of it than a cold or flu'. Pre-COVID we soldiered on until we couldn't and "dying with a cold" was and still is no big deal.

I don't think you can really get a clear answer to that. IMO, wall to wall alarm about COVID for the past two years has made a lot of people question the most minor of symptoms.

I'm unvaccinated as well as 4 of my adult children and many of my extended family. My daughter wanted the vaccination for college. It was my daughter who caught covid in college and subsequently we all tested positive. We all had similar symptoms, all mild. In the extended family too both vaccinated and unvaccinated had the very same outcome, no difference in severity or length of illness.

You seem to be back to losing the plot yourself! Stop reading that rubbish! ICU at 52 with all that so-called soup around.

I’m currently in los angles and about 5% wear masks , inside and out. It’s irrelevant if it’s the FFP2 or tissue style blue things. This cohort also spray down and scrub surfaces such as ATMs and public door handles. They usually travel in packs and are quite remarkable to the overall population. It’s 100% political over here and obviously so.

The great thing is it’s totally acknowledged as such and seems very much a “a that’s so cute” in normal terms of living. Covid is a distant nightmare for all but the clinically depressed or deranged tbh. (And that’s for California which is a leftist communist joke compared to freedom loving states like Florida / Texas etc)

Unboosted people need a negative test or recovery cert for countries that are still asking for the DCC. I went for a PCR solely for this reason.

Yeah having to get a negative test a day before is hassle imo.

So thats the main reason for a recovery cert use now? To avoid the antigen before the flight? Surely this doesnt apply to the US as only vaccinated folk can travel there now?

Think the prize of unions dictating to the public goes to .....yes , it's the teachers !

We also have to be wary of attributing things to covid which have always existed, but have just come into sharp focus over the last two years. The public have never really known at any stage how many people are in hospital or ICU for any given illness. Yes, we've had the background noise of trolley numbers and such, but we've never had a winter bed watch in the media telling us how many people are in hospital with severe 'flu every day.

Peoples' response to illness sits on a bell curve. The majority of people respond mostly appropriately, if a little slowly to the severity of an illness. At one narrow end of the bell curve you have people who turn up to the A&E because they stubbed a toe and it's really sore, or because they started coughing and they woke up and are terrified that it's covid and they're going to die.

But for every one of those people, you have another one on the opposite side of the bell curve who would lose a finger and then go to bed to try and "sleep it off" instead of going to hospital.

We know that the number of incidental covid cases in hospital is about 50%, but outside of that it would be a mistake to assume many of the rest are "overreacting". Certainly no more than normal anyway. On the whole, hospital is a lot of hassle and quite scary. People generally don't go unless they're genuinely scared for themselves; in this case having trouble breathing or so badly fatigued that they can barely move.