"Green" policies are destroying this country

That would be the question I answered yes? But you're not going to bother answering the question I asked first? Well there's a surprise

Btw the "rant" was your own and simply paraphrased from your comment 😅.

You keep repeating the same old stuff without ever reading poster comments

The poster did not mention the green party here. He referred to "green policies" with a graph of European energy prices in the first half of 2021

We already know that in the EU each country gets to decide its own energy mix, however energy costs are set by means of the EU green marginal price policy which pegs electricity costs to the dearest components of any mix - which are fossil fuels which are penalised and heavily taxed and these costs are in turn reflected in each EU countries electricity prices

So yeah the poster is correct and yet you've managed to go on yet another irrelevant rant about the greens not being in power yada yada yada

No wasn't mentioned because it wasn't relevant to that comment. You brought it up to go off on down your own avenue. But no matter.

And I can tell you from living in the UK min till is not widely used. Huge fields owned by commercial agricultural companies using massive machinery to intensively plough and cultivate the soil has been the norm.

But I guess like newer practices of minimum tillage, regenerative agriculture, multi species swards etc including lower stocking rates for livestock farmers are starting to make an impact and that's a good thing imho.

The one other thing which is relevant here is that on average the scale of farming and industrial farming in both in the UK and many countries in Europe is larger compared to here. Most farms in Ireland are still family owned and are fairly small compared to the average farms in those countries.

Ah I'm sorry. Is pointing out that your comment was glaringly incorrect now somehow against the rules of discussion? Deary me and no need for "reading minds" either, the detail in the posters comment is easily understood.

Look I get it you'd like to convert everyone to your opinion that the green party are all wonderful and the greens here never did nothing ( and you'd be correct if by that you mean any constructive). However constantly starting arguments over the most trivial things and badgering posters really doesn't work.

And btw I borrowed the word 'rant' because you've been throwing it around at all and sundry. I just thought I give it back lol.

1. Its a statement of fact. That is how electricity costs are set. I do know that several EU countries are highly critical of that method being used. And as far as I know there are alternatives to pricing. Maybe the EU will have to revisit that.

2. It remains that some fossil fuels namely natural gas are essential to the transition towards renewable energy generation and beyond. The prices of electricity is rising and will rise further because of the volatile situation with natural gas atm with regards to Russia etc and increased competition for an increasingly scarce resource and unfortunately thats going to mean that people get screwed with those rising electricity costs.

I replied to your reply just the way posters do. The OP comment was a simple factual post and easily understood.

And you're off again with another 'rant'. I'll leave you to it.

^^^^ Banana Republic 1 said this at 5.28 pm on the 27th!

Ah banana would you ever give it a rest. It's not a competition.

"Political attack" my rear end. Its a discussion. As per the title of the thread "GREEN" POLICIES ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY". And as has been shown in this thread - that statement has been shown to have validity.

The greens have shown they know feq all about either rural affairs or indeed agriculture imo. And yes they are indeed going to have a steep learning curve if anyone is going to take them seriously in the next couple of years.

Look if you wish to go off on a spiel about how awful livestock is or whatever fine. The point made and the point which stands is that tillage which is NOW being promoted is most certainly NOT the benign activity that some advocates are pushing. Cultivation and by that I mean tillage, ploughing etc is a major source of emissions of CO2. And yes it would seem livestock on grassland can help sequester even more C02 into grassland which helps mitigate emissions there and that's good for us because the absolute majority of land in Ireland is NOT suitable for tillage.

There's fuq all you can do to mitigate the known high levels of carbon emissions from large areas being ploughed and cultivated. So swings and roundabouts, and even more swings and roundabouts Banana!

Well Banana I made a true statement about how electricity generation costs in Europe are calculated. Unless you are now saying that statement isn't true? 🤔

Now you say you'd like to "investigate(my)recommendations" Lol .

1. I'm sure you would. I didnt make any "recommendations" btw. But if you really like to investigate the issue off you go

2. The only "spoofing" is your own comments

No one is biting 🍌

This stands btw.

It remains that some fossil fuels namely natural gas are essential to the transition towards renewable energy generation and beyond. The prices of electricity is rising and will rise further because of the volatile situation with natural gas atm with regards to Russia etc and increased competition for an increasingly scarce resource and unfortunately thats going to mean that people get screwed with those rising electricity costs.

You're welcome 🙏

BUT WHAT ABOUT GAS 😂

Banana Republic 1 also said this said!!! said this

"No you didn't make any recommendations cause you haven't one CLUE what your on about. You made those two statements within in the same day I might add and your there swinging like a garden hose. Its completely farcical, and the other three stooges bobbing there heads like pigeons. Laugh out load!!! what a load of Bollix"

Stay classy Banana!

Except one major thing. You've failed to show anything which was stated was "spoof" other than you claiming it so. So to that, lol.

Btw do you mean agricultural engineer who knows about "shovels" like this?

"Agricultural engineers make the engineering designs and plans in an agricultural project, usually in partnership with an agriculturist who is more proficient in farming and agricultural science"

Thats nice, but overall fairly irrelevant tbf.

But I'm afraid my dear Banana I'll have to leave you there as I can no longer take anything in those comments with a straight face anymore.

Keep digging down, keep digging down 🍌

An interesting perspective. Although a random check of the thread seems to show a different story

Here for example whilst posters were discussing the multiple issues of ongoing energy needs, LNG and natural gas exploration - were not infrequently met with the following type of commentary

"Kind of pointless calling the thread Green policies Should be just Green energy. Especially when the discussion is the same "what about gas"

"Wow a post without any mention of gas."

"It's 5 days now and we are still on "wHaT aBoUt gAs?"

"You are back onto gas again"

Funny thing is I don't see anyone getting "shut down" outside that.  Posters discussing what they wished to discuss in a thread  is fairly standard afaik.