Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

They got their seat on the board and now it's fcuk the common man lol

It was never my intention to create a discussion about Gulacsi, but the original plan for him was that he would sign a contract extension and then go out on loan for two seasons (2012/13, 2013/14) before becoming the #2 keeper in 2014/15. RB Salzburg are the club he was supposed to go on loan to, instead he signed for them on a free transfer when his contract expired at the end of the 2012/13 season.

Mignolet wasn't good enough to displace Reina at #1 in 2013. He wasn't even the best keeper that was available that summer. What he had in his favor was his potential resale value because he was an established international player, although he had at that point been displaced as the Belgium #1.

Rodgers tried to sign Michel Vorm before the 2014/15 season, that in itself should tell you that the manager saw that there was an issue. At the time Rodgers was talking up the need for a goalkeeper to be comfortable with the ball at their feet, that was never part of Mignolet's game and it's something he never adapted. In contrast it is something that Reina had and Gulasci developed during his career.

In 2012, Wilmot's made no secret of the fact that he believed that Mignolet lacked the mentality to push himself to be a #1. He needed to be challenged in order to improve, but he didn't get that at Liverpool because Reina was sent on loan in order to accommodate him. Until Karius was signed in 2016, his position was never under threat. The club could have tried to sign Alisson on Doni's recommendation at that point but they had determined that he wouldn't have qualified for a work permit.

Karius has chosen to sit out his contract and will leave on a free at the end of the season, some have been critical of him for choosing to do so. After Karius and Alisson displaced him, Mignolet had a few moans to the Belgian media about his position but he never seriously looked to move on. In 2019 he left Liverpool for an undisclosed fee which at the time was reported to be for the value of his remaining contract.

Mignolet is a nice guy but he was never good enough to be our first choice keeper, he now plays for Club Brugge and he's still the same player he always was. Thankfully we don't have to deal with that anymore.

Hopefully might persuade him to "sign da thing" 😂

I await with anticipation Barcelona bid of £20m + pique + alba + busquets and coutinho on loan.

No idea why his agent would be pushing for a move this summer, as a free agent they both stand to make far more.

Unless the offer is 100m plus even with only a year left, I'd rather keep him around for the year and let him sign for whoever next year with a huge signing on fee.

He was bought for a ludicrously low fee considering the impact he's had. Always gives everything for the team so I couldn't begrudge him stupid money signing on fee and wages next year.

I could see fsg considering both options. Sell obviously gets cash but its an abrupt amputation of a vital player that is still giving his all for the team.

If he stays then the team is still top tier for another year and that keeps all the other players and the manager happy. If he goes then even with a replacement the team drops a little without the current best player in the world.

They'll want the next up and coming player and timing is crucial with thise deals. Keeping Salah gives them a few options. It alsobrings them closer to the end of klopps contract. It keeps him having successful seasons. They might see more value in having another winning season over getting the cash in for a new player that might take 18 months to be winning material.

Would explain why a certain someone is desperate for Haaland to move now rather than next year...

Robbo back in training for Scotland and expected to play tomorrow. He won't get the full 2 weeks rest but on the other hand, he will get a game back under his belt for rhythm.

We won't turn down 100m plus if he won't sign a contract, were not PSG. We bought Diaz and jota for 70 odd million, we could do alot with 100m. Tough to replace but I have all the faith in the club to what's best.

A few reports this evening that Carvalho has agreed personal terms with Liverpool and the clubs have agreed the price.

Also talk that the club will go back to Porto to sign Vitinha.

Pep & Ward's Portuguese connections coming into play.

Exactly how I feel about it at this stage, he can say what he wants but actions speak louder than words, telling his agent not to tweet laughing emoji's whilst Klopp is mid press conference would be a start....

I love the guy to death for his football ability and would be devastated myself if we do lose him, but we have survived before and we will survive again if someone like Mo leaves....

Nice present from Caomhin to his old club....

Absolutely - Barca are still a top draw for players. Rich history, still one of the biggest clubs in the world, great stadium, great city, nice weather and a more favourable tax rate for players.

I know I'd prefer to live in Barcelona, tanning on a beach, than living in Liverpool.

I think it's a matter of time and a few bad results before they are up shìt creek again, there's huge underlying problems in the background of that club, a few bad results the fans will be baying for Xavi's head...

They are on -£121m spending currently. They need to make savings of £121m before they can spend more money. And they want Haaland and Salah? They are delusional and will need to show a lot of improvement in their finances before they can afford any new players, nevermind top class ones like Salah or Haaland. Remember they already cut salaries and got buy in from the likes of Pique and their top earners already before they bought more players. Sure they signed a new naming deal for the stadium but they will need a lot more deal like this before they will be able to attract the world's best.

As for Salah, with this as a backdrop there is no way he goes to Barca for more per week than he is offered here. So he needs to put pen to paper if it is not about money. He said he wants to stay, then sign the contract. He has earned more than enough already to be set for life. I am sure his new contract will pay him a lot of money. Don't appeal to supporters emotions, we will support the club long after he is gone. I would prefer him to be honest rather than this cryptic crap we are being fed by him and his agent.

Yep. We've all been guilty in sure of saying things like "give him what he wants", I know o have when he's scored yet another worldie but it's not realistic, we have to live within our actual means. I hope if he is going it happens in summer 2023 so we get another season of joy with him.

Obviously it'll be a blow to lose him but I doubt it'll be the end of the world, I thought it would be many times previously, most recently with Coutinho and that actually proved a master stroke. Obviously Mo is much much better be if we haven't learned to trust to club transfer lads by now we never will.

Looks like Mo and Mane’s stand-off is going to extra time anyway.

He's only human... as it stands, he's demonstrably hugely undervalued by his employers. That's never a nice feeling to know inside, and im sure we all know it from one thing or another in life. It doesn't sound like he's actually asking for anything like the vast sums he could get from one or two clubs elsewhere, so it doesn't sound like maximizing profit, but rather getting a fair return. Reports are he's asking for about 400k. That's objectively pretty fair for one of the top 2 or 3 players on the planet, and probably half of what he could get if he was purely and exclusively pushing for money. I think everyone can relate to some sort of "well if you don't value me, fck you"