"Green" policies are destroying this country

The thread is about 'destroying our country'

" an easy plan as most farmer's are on 3 phase" very few farmer's are on 3 phase, 1-2 % at most

More nimbyism by the greens, sure let everyone else build them just not in my backyard...

Tara Connolly of Global Witness said in her submission Europe had enough LNG terminals and building one in Ireland would take years.

“Given the useful lifespan of an LNG terminal is 30-40 years, it is feasible that Irish gas customers or taxpayers could still be paying for the LNG terminal in 2062,” she said.

Correct and right. The greens argument falls down on the fact gas is essential for the foreseeable futture so they turn to the cost as a scaremongering tactic

My counter argument to 'green policies destroying this country' is that the fossil fuel industry's concerted efforts to block green policies from being implemented, is not only destroying this country, but destroying the entire world

And the rampant fearmongering about the mere possibility of electricity rationing in a 'perfect storm' where renewables all across the grid all fail to generate at the same time, without any consideration for what would happen if multiple breadbaskets all experience crop failures at the same time (something that is explicitly forecast in the most recent IPCC report)

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/climate-change-could-devastate-global-food-supplies-researchers-warn-153024618.html

Have you not been reading my posts??? Fossil fuel lobbying has delayed and prevented the transition away from fossil fuels for decades

The amount of progress we have made on energy storage technology in the past few years has been staggering, if we had taken the transition from hydrocarbons seriously 40 years ago, that technology would all be mature installed infrastructure by now. Instead they spent decades waging a PR war against the science behind climate change so that we waited until the problem is already a crisis before beginning to act, and now that it is a crisis, they're ramping up their campaign against renewables to claim that we cannot wean ourselves off gas because renewables are not viable

We need to bite the bullet and commit to no new fossil fuel infrastructure, and to focus entirely on building the infrastructure we need for the future

Your 'knowledge' is hopelessly misinformed

All of the IPCC predictions have come and in fact, as each new report gets released, the future projections are getting more and more negative as we pass the milestones warned about in previous reports earlier than expected

https://www.climatecentral.org/news/ipcc-predictions-then-versus-now-15340

Its not a conspiracy theory to say that the fossil fuel industry have spent billions over the decades to convince people that climate change is not as serious as it is, and that alternatives to fossil fuels are not viable. You're just one of those people who has been convinced.

You also do not know what the term whataboutery means

Gas is needed during the transition from Fossil fuels. Everyone agrees with this.(for the millionth time). The transition means the time it takes to scale up the infrastructure to replace fossil fuels. Diverse Renewable energy, interconnectors, and BESS. The key being the capacity to store energy. BESS will make grid management much more simple and cheaper and easier to maintain. And the 'cost' of relying on fossil fuels, is vastly subsidised by future generations who will suffer the cost in the environmental destruction these emissions are causing.

Lithium Ion batteries are not suitable to grid scale storage. But there are much cheaper and more suitable technologies that are already being rolled out

It is conspiracy theory to suggest that discussing green policies are representatives of the fossil fuel industry

Yes I do know what "whataboutery" means and your comments are a bench mark for it tbh. From one comment regarding the reliability of renewable energy generation you've made the leap to monitoring global wheat production and spuds, then sideways to those discussing green policies being akin to fossil fuel industry representatives or wtte

Jayus now you agree that a safe, secure and reliable source of natural gas or other alternatives are needed. The point being made in my original comment. And no unfortunately not everyone in this discussion seems to agree with that

I didnt mention by batteries btw but I see that didn't stop you.

Ah lol I see your trying to weasel out of that one with a circular argument.

So what you're saying is that a farmer for example with 10 acres and 3 phase electricity is the definition of a "decent sized farmer"? Ok

So how many of these "decent sized farmers" have 3 phase electricity?

As another poster pointed out, fossil fuel lobbying are the only lobby that is delayed the transmission. The green movement have also played their part down the years with their anti nuclear campaigns where nuclear is now recognised as a transition source.

Green supporters here talk about weaning ourselves of fossil fuels as if fossil fuels were a drug that we could all give up in the morning by going cold turkey. They do not seem to see the reality that, a) we would be the only country doing so, and b) it would wipe out our economy overnight due to rolling blackouts.

There just appears to be this total remove from the reality that presently renewables are not a reliable source of energy and that, in our case at least, we will be for many years to come requiring fossil fuels to fill that gap. Due to a policy that has left us over dependent on natural gas we are now looking at serious problems with natural gas due to the war in Ukraine in the immediate future, and the greens answer is ban liquefied natural gas while closing down other fossil burning plants where the shortfall from these plants is to be made up by...... nine new natural gas fired plants.

The Irish Green party and their supporters are living in a fantasy land of 100% renewables providing all our requirements in the morning, and not just the present requirements, but all the other add-ons such as electric cars, heat pumps etc. without a clue as to how that is achievable while at the same time totally ignoring the here and now.