FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

Well it is politically naïve to say that in this country. The EVIDENCE is all there. If you are ignoring it, it is either because you have an agenda or you are naïve

Last time out, FF said they wouldn't go in with FG or SF...WHAT happened?

Any chance you could give us your opinion without the amateur phycology? What do you think happened here?

So why do you think it was refused?

Coveney was touting that it was worth over 2 billion to anywhere that hosted it. Given that the infrastructure is mostly going to be built anyway the 200 million cost was something FF and FG could have spun at the drop of a hat.

I think it is safe to say that what journalists were reporting after Zapponegate - that Coveney's star has fallen dramatically in government and even in his own FG was the end of this event.

The perils of being embroiled in scandal has cost Cork and the region.

Journalists were reporting last year that the Zappone affair had had an impact. Again, getting yourself embroiled in a damaging scandal were you have to renege on something you tried to do under the counter, has an effect. It would be absolutely naïve to believe otherwise or you are in 'handwave away' mode. I don't think anyone could be that naïve tbh.

Critics of America’s Cup pitch steer us away from ambition | Ireland | The Sunday Times (thetimes.co.uk)

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Hmm...you said it had nothing to do with the Zappone affair - I think media comment says otherwise, but carry on trying to deny it.

Cork is well used to being let down by the Fine Gael TDs. Didn't Dara Murphy rob us all blind while chasing a European job.

FG’s Dara Murphy: based in Brussels for two years but claiming €4,300 monthly Dáil allowance (irishtimes.com)

Cork North Central TD Dara Murphy has claimed his full parliamentary and travel allowances of €4,300 per month despite not having spoken in the Dáil for almost two years.

Mr Murphy has attended the Dáil on 24 of the 70 sitting days this year. Most of the days he has been present have been Thursdays, the day most votes are cast.

He has the lowest attendance record of all 158 TDs.

However, Mr Murphy has been recorded as being present in Leinster House on 55 non-sitting days – among the highest of all TDs.

Most of these days have been Mondays and Fridays, when he was en route to, or returning from, Brussels or other European cities. The 55 days includes 12 days in August.

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I believe Leo asked Dara nicely to return the fraudulent expenses...any luck?😉

New Politics is deep in the trough.

Hi BA, the news media was predicting this would be the result last September. Which leads me back to the question asked at the start, before the huffing and puffing, is Coveney's political clout gone in the government and within FG.

He championed this idea and was not able to get it over the line.

BTW, the people on the ground in Cork didn't seem to see a problem being ready, so the likelihood is the reasons for the decision were spun. Such is politics.

I said the 'people on the ground' in Cork. And their views are easily accessed on google.

I didn't 'gloat' either, I clearly said the event is neither here nor there for me and that I was interested in the political import of it not happening and what it means for the Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Imagine posing such a question on a government thread, scandalous! 😁

Exactly, Sinn Fein had the opportunity to form a government. Even with 68 or 62, they could have put it up to FF and the independents for confidence and supply or an election with them getting the blame.

the problem for Sf was twofold, 90% of their party doesn’t want to be in government and the few that do are unable to do a deal with any other party. SF’s failure to get into government is all of their own fault.

Yawn, nothing new there, ignore the way your position is demolished and have a go at the poster doing the demolition.

Have you managed to figure out yet whether you are in favour of the Americas Cup yet? Hearing SF are for it to use it a stick to beat the government.

So have you decided yet whether it was a good government decision to cancel it? I mean for someone who claims to have no interest in the event, you sure post an awful lot more than anyone else on these boards about it.

Yesterday when I heard the government were setting up a pension that anyone without a pension would be auto enrolled into, I thought this was good as everyone should pay into a pension and by auto enrolling people it means younger people, who lets face it don't think about a pension, would be automatically set up. Then you read in the article in the Indo (which for some posters on here along with RTE and IT is gospel) and the article is saying that the government has privately conceded that this is just set up to help people pay for their rent when they retire because they will never own a home so it turns out that was is a good idea is just another handout to landlords/vulture funds.

Any answer to a simple question that has been posed to you for many days now Blanch? 🙂

Will you be pushing your local FG and FF TD to resurrect the 2015 Public Sector Standards Bill that got shelved even though it promised much needed and long overdue reform and had broad support in the Dail?