Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I presume you're using the same hallways and bathrooms. Clearly you learned nothing in two years. You can be asymptomatic. It's you spreading covid. That's why your masked colleagues are picking up covid.

Tony is a lame duck. Smart move sideways so he can live off his reputation forever.

Reminds me of Tom Parlon.

Part of that public advice they were seeking is a change in the isolation period and it should be looked at anyway. Meanwhile back under 50 in ICU.

Discharges are also catching up.

Lots of healthy people drop dead everyday, nothing new there. I know a good few over the years that passed like this and appeared very healthy beforehand.

But you still came in swinging anyway. They can be ignored just like all the rest of us so yes it is democracy in action. Stakeholders in the health system sure but they are also vested interests and what they demand society should be doing is best ignored. Data suggests it'll be rough for a while more and then it'll ease.

So you say its better for society to 'ignore' patient advocate groups, health professionals and those working on the frontline???

Right we know where you are coming from now..

Not a bit. Our current problem with numbers is largely HSE-related. They don't get to dictate to government what applies to wider society at any point. Being frontline just means you know a lot about being on the frontline. This will calm down fairly soon and positivity is now down to 36% from close to 50%, the 7 day rate is falling as well at 40%. It was 46% a week ago.

Oh thanks for telling me what ' I know '. 😊

You don't say where you work as is your prerogative, but I could say to you , you may have some idea of where I work, but nobody can say what I ' know' .

Anyway moving on I do agree that this will peak and bottom out in the next month ( don't forget Easter in the middle) but it's what is happening in the meantime that you 'know' we have to deal with and what is Donnelly doing about that?

He is the minister ..easy to blame HSE but as we know , they are the way they are thanks to successive governments. So lets not pass the blame along , the buck stops with him now .

So he has heard the advice and recommendations, he has dispatched NPHET , not yet set up the new advisory group ( maybe you have info on that ?) .And now having ignored advice from stakeholders essentially with nobody else to advise ( a phone call to Holohan who has already packed his bags does not count and Holohanhas kicked that yoke off his shoulders now ) HE ...the Minister ... has made the decision to go forth and multiply.

I would say Stephen is on a solo run here and best of luck if it works out !

I wouldn't like to have any member of my family needing urgent noncovid care over the next month to six weeks .

I know 3 people who died suddenly since the vaccine roll out began. , 2 were neighbours. The vaccines were beginning to get blamed. “ oh it must have been the vaccines “ When the autopsy results came out the results told a very different story.

Any idea of todays numbers up or down

If your criteria for 'has the emergency ended' is - essentially another variant can change everything, then the emergency can never end in your eyes. Surely you this is logic issue?

No, I agree that we are very much not in the same situation as we were, Adam ,thankfully.

But we need to keep in mind the possibility of this turning nasty again with the now very real danger of a variant that has evolved to evade not just vaccines but treatment . As it is Omicron has both antibody and some vaccine evasion properties, and some treatments like monoclonal antibodies that were used successfully with immunocompromised people with Delta , are useless now. There is only one which retains its use against Omicron, called Sotrovimab atm and supplies are very hard to come by as the whole world us looking for it .

But these are issues that should not be a worry anyone healthy or vaccinated or recovered at present .But the " head in the sand " approach ,yippee it's all over is not appropriate either .

The emergency is over but the fight to contain and treat so it truly becomes endemic goes on .

Yes ,acutely aware and no fan of the HSE as it stands , I think you know .

However this is extreme at present with literally no isolation areas left . So it's like a trolley crisis/ + terrorist situation and someone has let offa tear gas canister in A&E and you don't want the ordinary patients to be affected , but there is nowhere to put them .