Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q and A)

masit · 23-03-2022 10:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118783989#Comment_118783989

Here's 1 up the North

https://www.trustford.co.uk/used-car-details/used-ford-fiesta/id-713451834/?SSPostcode=bt440rd

£17,450 @.83301 =€20,946

VRT= €4546

Nox= Max €600.

No VAT or Customs as from the north

NOX is high on this car and showing 136g/km so when I put that into the vrt calculator is giving as €600

User1998 · 23-03-2022 10:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118826147#Comment_118826147

It has 136g of Co2. Nox is more like 0.025 or thereabouts. Around €150 or so

Tomcat007 · 27-03-2022 4:31pm

Does anyone know the science behind the VRT calculation? Is it anything to do with Nox or is it just down to open market selling price in ROI?

User1998 · 27-03-2022 5:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118842923#Comment_118842923

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/calculating-vrt/applying-the-tax.aspx

Explanation above

Sparkrite · 30-03-2022 4:19pm

Hi all,

Cannot really find a definitive answer to this one, so all help appreciated.

Looking at buying a 2018 UK car ( Peugeot 208 £6,000 ) that has just landed in NI but has not and may not be registered in NI, if I buy it.

Assuming that no import/VAT duties are due when it was imported to NI by the vendor and this will be shown on his customs declaration.

My question is this, will I be liable for VAT + VRT, or just VRT, here in the south when I go to register the car?

Also any difference between if it registered in NI or not before I buy it?

TIA.

User1998 · 30-03-2022 4:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118857049#Comment_118857049

The seller will not have a customs declaration as goods can move freely between UK and NI. You will be liable for customs duty, VAT, and VRT upon registration here. Makes no difference if it gets registered up North

damemcd · 30-03-2022 11:56pm

is there anywhere you can check that a car (honda Crv} is made in uk with the required percentage of the parts being of uk origin .?

Tomcat007 · 31-03-2022 2:01pm

Difference between importing from the UK and importing from Northern Ireland

Vehicles registered in Northern Ireland before January 1st 2021 are not subject to customs duty or VAT
Vehicles first registered in Northern Ireland after January 1st 2021 are not subject to customs duty or VAT
Vehicles first registered in Northern Ireland after January 1st 2021 and considered new for VAT purposed are not subject to customs duty but are subject to VAT

Vehicles first registered in the UK and then registered in Northern after January 1st 2021 are not subject to customs duty or VAT, provided there is proof the vehicle was properly imported to Northern Ireland. The proof required is a copy of the customs declaration showing the importation of the vehicle into Northern Ireland or a T2L document issued by HMRC.

Vehicles first registered in the UK and then registered in Northern after January 1st 2021 are subject to customs duty or VAT, if proof cannot be provided that the vehicle was properly imported to Northern Ireland.

I got the above from a website. Does anybody know if No.2 is correct? I'm looking at a used car (2021) in NI. Mileage is 12,000 miles. I thought once you went past January 2021 you were liable for customs + VAT no matter what.

mickdw · 31-03-2022 2:58pm

I'd say no 2 should read 'are subject'

Tomcat007 · 31-03-2022 4:54pm

https://brexitlegal.ie/importing-used-vehicles-2021-revenue/

Vehicles first registered in Northern Ireland after 1 January 2021

You can register a vehicle first registered in Northern Ireland after 1 January 2021 without any check on its customs status. If it is a new vehicle for VAT purposes, then the VAT is collected at registration.

https://www.moneyguideireland.com/imports-of-used-cars-in-ireland.html

Vehicle whose first UK registration after 31 December 2020 was in Northern Ireland is not subject to customs duty or VAT on import to Ireland. Import duty will NOT apply and 23% Irish VAT will NOT be charged
Vehicles first registered in Northern Ireland after January 1st 2021 and considered new for VAT purposed are not subject to customs duty but are subject to VAT when imported to Ireland.

I checked a few other websites (see above extracts) and believe I wouldn't have to pay VAT as long as the car is not new and was registered in NI for the first time (i.e. not registered in England and then imported to NI). That's my understanding anyway.

masit · 02-04-2022 8:31am

From my understanding when buying a car up North.

(1)Cars registered or imported into NI before 1st Jan 2021, no customs duty or vat due.

(2)Cars imported from the mainland into NI after 1st Jan 2021, there is custom duty and vat to be paid.

(3)New cars registered in NI after 31st Dec 2020 (never been registered on the mainland), no customs duty or vat due.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/registration-of-imported-used-vehicles/registering-vehicles-from-ni.aspx

Registering vehicles whose first UK registration after 31 December 2020 is in NI

A vehicle first registered in NI after 1 January 2021 can be registered in the State without providing proof of its customs status where it meets the following conditions:

the registration in NI was the first registration of the vehicle in the United Kingdom (UK)
and
the vehicle has never been exported and, or re-registered in, Great Britain or any other country outside the European Union.

steven1987 · 05-04-2022 9:57am

Hi

I'm looking at a car that is northern registered

But it's from copart so I will need to apply for v5c that's no problem

The question is how can I prove that the car was first registered in Northern Ireland? The registration number ? It is KRZ Rz = Antrim if I'm correct

bazz26 · 05-04-2022 10:08am

Be very careful that you can actually get the v5c sent to you. The DVLA will not send them to ROI residents/addresses.

steven1987 · 05-04-2022 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118882514#Comment_118882514

Cheers,

I have a guy in the North that will allow me use his address so should be good.

I'm more so trying to avoid customs and duty charges

SkatesOn · 15-04-2022 9:55pm

Looking at importing a 2009 Land Rover Defender 110 (Commercial) from the UK. Anybody got any idea what the VRT and other taxes might be?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 16-04-2022 12:58pm

So I'd plans to build a camper van until I realized that you can't get a decent van in Ireland anymore for less than 5k, they're all ex builders vans, wrecked, moon miles or just too small. What the hell happened all the cheap Vans?! So I had a look to the UK where I can pick up exactly what I want for 3/4k that suits my needs perfectly.

What's the story now with bringing in a van from the UK with Brexit, I assume is not a flat €200 fee anymore. What should I be looking for, an older van, a newer van, a crew cab, one with mega miles? I've no idea what to import now unless I know exactly what I'll be charged for the Irish numberplates.

User1998 · 16-04-2022 1:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118934707#Comment_118934707

Can’t advise you on what van to buy, but customs charges are 35.3% of the invoice selling price + shipping. And VRT is €200

ParNCH · 21-04-2022 4:17pm

Is importing from the UK just a complete non runner now?

I know I need to pay VAT @23% (is it standard 23% of price you paid to purchase?), VRT which will be calcualted on OMSP and then Nox.

I'm not interesded in making huge savings but if it even leveled out I would still consider as I have a family member living in the UK that comes back to Ireland regulalry who would be willing to view purchase and drive it home. I'd be looking at 2018s around the £20k mark. Either a BMW 4 series or merc c class.

The comparble car is still 30-35k here with a lower spec.

Any knowledge would be much appreciated.

kanuseeme · 21-04-2022 6:31pm

if the car is of EU origin and less than 3 years old from the time of import in to the UK, no duty paid here , you can also buy vat free on vat qualifying cars in the UK but it would take some convincing, then pay vat here.

Its not the registered date but the date of import, a car could be registered one year but sitting in a dealers yard for 2 years and 1 month, when you bring it here, its 10 % duty thank you very much.

geopadraig · 22-04-2022 7:09am

Hey lads. This customs crap is doing my head in.

Is it impossible to pay customs and VAT as a private individual, do you have to go through a broker?

User1998 · 22-04-2022 11:44am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118959278#Comment_118959278

Has to be done through a customs agent

OisinMurray · 02-05-2022 2:17pm

I'm considering importing a camper from the UK. Are you still able to drive back yourself or is a transport company needed? Presume theres no special rates or what not for campers, 23% vat, 10% customs and 13.5% vrt?

Also is customs and vat payed once off the ferry, or does it just need to be payed before VRT'ing it?

User1998 · 02-05-2022 10:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119005603#Comment_119005603

You might get away with driving through Holyhead as a tourist but technically you are supposed to pay it beforehand

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 03-05-2022 3:10pm

I'm utterly confused as to how to import anymore.

Looking for a camper from the UK. No idea what impact a van converted and registered as a camper impacts the price you pay when you land or even if I can drive it home myself.

Same thing with importing a JDM car from the UK pre 92, what the hell kind of bill am I getting when I land it home?

Why, a few years on from Brexit don't revenue have an accurate calculator for any of this.

User1998 · 03-05-2022 3:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119010203#Comment_119010203

To be fair the costs of importing from countries outside the EU has been clearly laid out on Revenues website, and has been for years. VRT information is also freely available on Revenue

OisinMurray · 03-05-2022 9:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119007671#Comment_119007671

Ah ok thanks! That was the main part I couldn't find info on.

TomFitz16 · 04-05-2022 11:01pm

Hi All! Looking at buying a 3 series from a main dealer in Northern Ireland. Understand all the calc of VRT and docs required - but has anyone chanced their arm at the NCT centre and tried to counter the Revenue OMSP values/car specs/CO2 values etc? Or are they very much computer says no attitude? I’d rather pay €5k than €10k VRT in absolutely whatever way possible!

Cheers