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Bruce Willis retires from acting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,597 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    He was apparently getting 2M for 2 days works for the terrible films he did at the end.



  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yes but he would have been getting a multiple of that for the full roles.

    As I said the per-day rate was very good.

    Huge money in "normal person" terms.

    Either way sounds like he should have been retired for years and him continuing on in that condition seems grubby and exploitative from both the point-of-view of the likes of Emmett and Willis' own minders who were quite incentivised to keep him going even though it appears at times that he didn't know what the fook was going on or where he was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    You also said this, showing your ignorance, buy you a coffee? I wouldn't give you the steam off my piss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    Did I ask you for a coffee, I’m actually a fan but I’ve seen the actors decline for almost a decades , something was very wrong with his performances



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder will the RedLetterMedia guys address the video they made about Willis last month as this seems to be the catalyst to this news being made public.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    They did a follow up video on Willis' DTV output, cos there's just that much of it; IIRC they basically addressed the then rumours. How it's hard to know either way, cos nothing was confirmed or denied by anyone and basically was none of their business either way when all's said and done. They seemed a bit taken aback, uncomfortable even, by being a catalyst for this entire segue. Wrapped within their noted dark humour mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,285 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    This genuinely brought a bit of sadness to me when I read it. He is a part of my Christmas, along with my circle of friends, with Die Hard, but looking overall, I really love a lot of the movies he has been in.

    The real tragedy is the manner in which he now has to retire. As some have mentioned, it robs people of something that is so core to them, so it has that extra sadness to it. I, like many, wish him the best in his retirement.



  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Does Bruce's illness explain why his recent films have been so bad ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    For me there is only 2 die hard movies 1 and 3.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69




  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    It was a shame they never brought John McTiernan back to make another die hard film.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Was never a fan of him.

    Homer Simpson Arsing around the place in a vest summed him up.

    yet I sympathise with him and his family for this ordeal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder does this go all they way back to when Willis considered challeneging Apple for the right to leave his digital content to his daughters.

    If I rememeber rightly he said at the time he was contemplating his death and what what he would leave his family.


    That also reminds he had a couple of hit songs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,607 ✭✭✭bassy


    could never stand the sight of him,good riddance...............................................................



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Not as such. The films are part of a churn of bottom feeders called "geezer teasers"; cheap DTV Movies with ageing stars, hired for a few scenes and their fading star power. This article goes into detail about it. It operates with the "stack em high and sell em cheap" mentality towards filmmaking.

    Willis' involvement was initially rumoured to be an attempt to make easy money for his family before the illness completely took hold; recent news confirming these rumours.

    While this popular YT channel's video actually watched a bunch of the "movies", and examines just how sloppy and bad they are, alongside Willis'history in this cottage industry. They bookend their videos with some skits, but the meat of the subject is interesting.




  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blast from the past that.

    Did well in the UK but not in the US apparently.



  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    So those "movies" were basically a scam that were sold on the back of Bruce's name ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,116 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Bruce Willis has retired from acting 

    Full-time acting. He might do a bit of moonlighting though





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,542 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Doubling down on being an asshole is such a classy move.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    I can't see any other action film ever topping Die Hard.

    They can't top Die Hard so other films just copy it.




  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭Tork


    You'd think he should be loaded but I certainly wouldn't be betting the farm on it. When people get rich, their lifestyle usually expands to match their income. We don't know what Bruce Willis's outgoings were, whether his investments were good or bad or anything else really. Also, heaven knows what sort of healthcare bills (American stylee) are coming over the horizon for him. If his condition deteriorates, he's going to need increasing levels of care. That's not cheap anywhere, so we can only guess as to what it'll cost in the USA.

    I just hope that there weren't people behind the scenes pushing Bruce into doing all these films to keep the gravy train going. Regardless of whether you liked him or his films very much, it's a sad ending to a solid acting career.

    Post edited by Tork on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,116 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    not all there

    Luckily his acting career has prepared him for the ne plus ultra of that...




  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    At his level you need millions every year just to maintain an A list lifestyle.

    I read that it cost Johnny Depp 4 million a year just to pay for the upkeep on his various mansions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Just sell a couple of mansions. Nah he’s a multi millionaire… 3 years from his 70th birthday, covid and shít…

    retiring would be precisely what I’d be doing too…



  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He'll always be Hudson Hawk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sexual Chocolate


    Sad to hear about Bruce. Most recent film of his I've seen is probably Red so I'm not aware of anything with him after that.

    Die Hard is probably one of my most favorite films, I watch it every Christmas without fail and never get fed up with it. Enjoyed some of his other stuff such as Mercury Rising, Tears of the Sun, Hostage and The Kid.

    He also plays a good villian as he did in The Siege and in one of the early episodes of Miami Vice as a weapon buyer/wife beater.

    Little fun fact for Die hard and Lethal Weapon fans. Bruce and Mel used the same prop Beretta 92f pistol in both original movies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    Hostage is an underrated gem that is better than the last 2 Die Hard films IMO.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I read about this morning.

    I had assumed that all the “straight to video” movies (most of which he isn’t even billed as the lead) he has been doing was because of some finance or tax trouble.

    If that wasn’t the situation and he has no money problems then I don’t understand the need to do these movies - isn’t he a millionaire? That isn’t a criticism or snark about the man - I’m just trying to figure out why he threw himself into those movies.

    Anyway it is sad news. He made some great movie. I thought aphasia was only something that could happen after a stroke.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I don’t see how they are a “scam”.

    They are just low budget badly made movies. They’ve been around since VHS appeared.

    They obviously make money somehow otherwise how can they get made or hire someone like Bruce Willis?



  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    On the "forcing" him to work angle. He, honestly, may just have wanted to be working for as long as he could. Something a bit in his control.


    He was in the best superhero origin film, Unbreakable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah I think rather than a scam, they're always just hoping for that one that becomes a cult hit.

    As for why Bruce would continue trying to make money when he's already rich, no one can really say how much money he has, how much his care is going to cost into the future, plus its not just about money for him but also for his family. Even if he made 2m per movie for his last 10 movies, that's 20m. That's nothing to be sniffed at even if he's already rich.

    If I knew I was leaving behind 100m to my family and I had a chance to earn another 20m to leave behind too, I'd do it. Regardless of how it may be seen to tarnish his acting legacy or how many Razzies they give him, I can't fault him for that.

    Though if he has been cognitively impaired and they had him on film sets using weapons with blanks... that's not fantastic....



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    From what I've seen of these shovelware films, they don't use squibs but those awful CGI ones; indeed if the RLM video is to be believed, Willis rarely appears in action scenes anyway, a bad body double instead used in action scenes. The double shot from behind or in the background, out of focus.

    And yeah, the Willis' might be "rich" by any conventional wisdom but we can't know how much of that is liquid, tied up in investments, assets - or just will get lost once Bruce passes and the tax-man, inheritance comes along.

    And TBH, if I knew my mind was about to leave me and had no way to enjoy my grey years with my family, becoming an actual burden? I'd 100% consider taking some shítty job if it paid a crazy amount of cash up-front. No worries then about those investments crashing, or discovering your accountant f'ed you over and the IRS takes it all.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    As to the "scam" angle, these Geezer Teasers are no different from the Asylum business model of making "mockbusters", and those shítty rip-off films budgeted at $1 million; or the entire career of someone like Roger Corman; or the Golan-Globus era of Cannnon films. There has always been a bottom feeding, sub-industry in Hollywood of cheap garbage pushed out by the shovel full. Fadó it was about titillation and X-rated schlock. Now it's throwing some cash at a fading star to sit in a chair for 3 scenes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    I knew it was said that it was for his family but I guess I never considered the cost of care and yes, more money to leave for your family is always better. I never thought that maybe a millionaire (I assume he is) would think that too - they just like the rest of us.

    Looking at it like that I would be be very sympathetic to him for taking chances on films sets with weapons, etc. No one was hurt thank goodness but I’d be more inclined to blame the risk on the the producers and filmmakers - as understand it several have commented that they knew “something was wrong”.

    I was very disappointed how Willis (and Jackson too) was sidelined in GLASS in favour of McAvoy. This sad news makes GLASS makes that disappointment greater.

    The “straight to video” type thing has happened to Hollywood stars even before VHS - there was a lot old time stars that up in Italy’s film industry in the 1950s (I think) becasue of declining careers in Hollywood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,598 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    For the most part it'd definitely be a stunt double. But there was a report of Bruce himself accidentally firing a gun with a blank at the wrong time while in a scene with an actress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,597 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Seeing "A Golan Globus Production" in the opening credits was the sign of a good time to come



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  • Registered Users Posts: 43 second toughest in the infants


    Poor fella. These kind of illnesses are always tragic.

    He's left some great movies behind him. My favourite is probably The Fifth Element.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I should have added: my comments weren't a criticism; some very fine directors got their start within that sphere of the cinematic equivalent of the Penny Dreadful. While many of the films themselves endure. The difference with these Geezer Teasers is that those films appear to have absolutely zero craft or attention applied to them, slapped together by design. I can't imagine we'll see the next Sam Raimi or whatnot getting their first gig via these terrible films.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I read couple of months ago about Willis and the word was that he found it hard to say any lines so often he relied on cue cards just off camera Saturday Night Live style. Reports from crew members he worked with on his recent movies. All just rumors tho.

    I thought it was just Willis not caring. Like giving any old performance for a paycheck in a bum b movie. But reports were right. Just shows you that some things do drip down like Kevin Spacey being gay. Will Smith in an open marriage. Some rumors do be true.

    Sad about Bruce tho. You just never know how your health will pan out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭magic_murph


    Maybe try some anger management classes - you clearly have some internal issues that need working out. God speed xxx



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Ah be fair die hard 2 is a good movie. Sure, 1 and 3 are better than it but its not that bad.

    Dh2 is more a die hard movie than 5. I would even say its more of a die hard movie than 4.

    Like, die hard 4 isn't a bad movie. But Willis could have been playing John Smith and it would have been the same movie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭magic_murph


    Peoples acceptance of fake sympathy speaks volumes. Each to their own playa.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭magic_murph




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭Tork


    Give it a rest, eh?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ads20101


    Bloody Tragic IMHO

    He got my undivided attention since Moonlighting

    It was nice that his wider family appears unified and supportive at this time



  • Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭dubstepper


    Undivided attention? That must have been some cross to bear the last decade.



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