"Green" policies are destroying this country

Less reason so to call on the banning of LNG from other countries based on supposition if you are happy enough continuing to be part of the problem in China then is it not ?

Again, this craziness that we will sort out the planet on our own.

China and India make up 40% of this planets population. We represent 0.065% .

We are pissing into the wind and while others who could not give a toss, are using cheap energy unhindered, and even encouraged to produce "green" products strengthening their economies, while we are destroying ours and making beggars of our citizens.

ffs, China aren`t just the largest world producers of solar panels, they are predicted to become the same for EV`s.

it's you and others unable to except the necessary reality going on about us sorting out the plannet.

what we are doing will sort ourselves out a hell of a lot more and benefit us a hell of a lot more then the plannet and that is why we need to do it regardless of whatever our contribution to the plannet may be.

our economy isn't being destroyed and it's wholesale prices dictated by the market that are causing energy price increases which will be effecting china and india to an extent as well.

whatever cheap energy china and india may have access to won't last long as coal is finite and at the rates both countries are extracting and burning it will be gone in the next few decades.

so china are producing solar pannels and EVS, so what? that is the choice the west has made to farm out manufacturing to there decades ago rather then keeping it in house, they could undo that but don't want to and won't do so because it's cheap.

either way, not an argument against the necessary modernisation we are going to have to go through to cut costs, clean up the place and deal with the huge levels of polution we have as well as take back our cities.

modernisation is happening, it's over and the times oh they are a changing.

Do you know that believe it or not we do not live in our own separate biosphere. We are pissing into the wind on climate change with our 0.065% of the planets population where just two countries who do not give a flying fcuk make up 40%. And show how little of a flying fcuk they give by not just burning merrily away at coal but are now stockpiling cheap Russian oil.

So yeah, what difference does it make that China are suppling all this kit the greens want while adding to the problem that we are getting financially hammered to sort out for good of the planet. Utter ideological insane nonsense.

If you are worried about the increase in energy supply then our supposedly cheaper renewable sources aren`t doing us much good at keeping prices down. Any idea why that maybe ?

because the wholesale price of gas has increased hugely, meaning it is gas rather then renewables that are causing the price rise.

what we are doing is benefiting us hugely hence not pissing in the wind, meaning the china and india argument to do nothing is invalid and failed and destroyed.

of course, but it doesn't change the facts.

there is a shortage but also the wholesale price had been increasing hugely before the shortage.

the wholesale price increase is the big big problem and that remains even if we get new supplies.

China is one of the top four CO2 emitters due to coal burning plants, and are opening over 30 more of the same. They are now taking advantage of the war in Ukraine stockpiling oil at a reduced price oil from Russia. Yet you are happy to buy all their "green" products manufactured using cheap dirt energy and slave labour.

Sound as if being best in class for you gets a much higher preference than human rights and climate change that you are on here day and night yapping on.about.

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What wave technologies do we currently have on the grid or due to come into the grid in the next 5 years?

the wholesale price was always going to go through the roof, the war just brought that on quicker.

LNG is gas so is subject to the same issues including security of supply which is not guaranteed due to geographical and political reasons.

the only true security of supply is via our own generated renewables.

That is not what I asked you. The position from greens here is that electricity prices will not reduce until we have 100% renewables, but with us having 42% of our electricity being generated by renewables, and Germany with an even higher percentage, why are we both in the top four in the E.U. with the most expensive charges with that level of renewables in the mix ?

Of course it is pissing in the wind when the likes of China and India, to name just two, could care less burning coal producing kit that we are supposed to pay through the teeth for, building more coal burning plants, and not just using slave labour in China`s case, but both now taking advantage of the war in Europe to stockpile cheap oil. It`s farcical.