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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It's absolutely unbelievable the levels of depravity the Russians are sinking to. What decade do they think we're living in? It's not the kind of thing that can be swept under the rug anymore. It's almost instantly frontpage news, once uncovered. Even if it's one platoon going mad, the Russian government must come out and condemn it. It would at least be something, but they probably won't because it would mean having to admit they were wrong.

    The Americans committed similar atrocities in Vietnam by targeting civilians, but in that case it was roundly condemned domestically and abroad, and that whole stupid war protested against. Russia has a hell of a lot of catching up to do in terms of ethics. The West doesn't want that knuckle-dragging, merciless, strongman mentality that's undoubtedly fuelling these kinds of actions. It's that mentality that makes Russia a 2nd class power anyway, and a kip vs. what it could be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The country needs to pay. Not just Putin and the commanders on the ground.

    As it's a nuclear country, invasion is out of the question but isolating them, even if it means them becoming China's b*tch, could work. Let them have North Korean living standards. This attack on Ukraine is widely supported in Russia so having the whole country take the consequences for this isn't unreasonable in my opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,848 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I happened to one video and stopped it once I realised what was shown. If that’s confirmed then Jesus Christ that’s horrific in the 21st century.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's horrendous publicity for them in any event. Every country in the West is leading nightly with stories of war crimes, barbarism and atrocities by the regime. If you're losing the info war to this degree, you're already in big trouble. We're almost certainly going to see an arrest warrant being issued soon for Putin as a major war criminal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    Three weeks ago I said Russia was perpetrating a genocide and was laughed at. Perhaps now people might want to start waking up that yes, they are indeed committing a genocide.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    It's obvious looking at the pictures and reports coming out of the suburbs of Kyiv especially around Bucha that Russia needs to be dealt with. Imho the West need to arm the Ukrainians with everything they need to push the invaders out of all their territories and once that happens be prepared to send in peacekeeping forces to ensure the Russians don't return.

    I don't believe Putin will be alive for war crimes trials but those who were in positions of power and influence including the nutters on Russia's propaganda TV need to face justice and no sanctions should be removed until this has been achieved.

    Russia should no longer be part of the international community until the Nazism that has taken control of their society is purged.



  • Registered Users Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    @mcmoustache - As it's a nuclear country, invasion is out of the question...


    We don't have to invade Russia, but we should now send in the troops and planes to Ukraine and obliterate Putin's forces. He wont have the excuse that we were threatening Russian territory, but if he resorts to nuclear strikes then it simply means he was always intending to use them. We shouldn't just sit around and wait and see any longer. Our lack of courage is simply emboldening him, and he's going to carry on mass killing civilians, and probably use chemical weapons next if his campaign stutters and stalls much further.

    Do we stand by and watch these atrocities unfold for days more, weeks more, months more, or what...?

    Enough is enough.

    I say send the lads in now.






  • Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Remember. Clare Daly and Mick Wallace were the useful Irish idiots who were apologists for what has happened here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭threeball


    Wouldn't have happened if the west had done the right thing on day one and put Putin back on his hole. Instead they dithered and waged a proxy war using the ukranian people to give Russia a bloody nose with no cost to themselves but financial.

    I said it in the first week of the war, some things are worth facing down a nuclear strike over and genocide, especially where children is concerned is one of them. We let the Russians do this and now we'll ring our hands, spend days ruminating over it on shy and CNN whilst letting it continue in the Donbass.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Fucckingg hell !!! That is horrible… I keep up to date with what’s going on in Ukraine but it pretty much unimaginable from comfortable Ireland



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Agree with you 100%. If the west had faced Russia down in 2014 this would not have happened. We didn't so now we have to deal with them and given the crimes being uncovered should involved western forces getting involved by initiating air operations over Ukraine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    The west cant stand by…. Send everything in to the Ukraine….. those Russians need to pay





  • Ukraine dont need nato troops, they just need nato equipment



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Agreed. Arm them to the teeth.

    I don't understand the hesitance here. Russia isn't going to launch nukes for being driven out of Ukraine. I'll even go so far as to claim that they won't launch nukes if NATO troops on the ground were to drive them back to Russia and Belarus. The Russian military is only good for raping, looting and bombing civilians from afar. They don't have the effectiveness of a modern military (i didn't believe this a month ago). Ukraine showed that they're useless in conventional warfare and NATO should take full advantage of that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    Seems that the Tapir's are the next set of animals being whisked away from Kharkiv zoo





  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    A no fly zone should be on the cards now.

    Each image coming out is more horrific than the last. God only knows what Mariupol is really like. Reports that all men between the ages of 16-60 were executed in Bucha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    To think that these bozos were complaining bitterly about "genocide" in the Donbass region - when most civilians who died there were unfortunately caught up in fighting between the two sides.

    Now we are seeing what actual genocide looks like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Is it time to storm the russian embassy yet? Because I have some anger I want to direct somewhere.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Germany needs to cop the **** on and immediately stop imports of Russian gas. I don't give one shite how much the costs increase or if there are shortages.

    Not one cent of European money should be funding these massacres.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Based on the photos from Bucha alone the whole mob should be kicked out of the country and the embassy building should be handed over to Ukrainian refugees.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,251 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69



    Nuke putin !!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,334 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    But as I was saying earlier, the fact that the Russians made not the slightest effort to conceal these bodies strongly suggests they don't care about the bad PR...



  • Registered Users Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    They believe they have carte blanche to do whatever they want knowing the West will not intervene because of the nuclear threat... which of course is exactly why Putin issued that veiled threat a couple of weeks ago.

    It will only get worse. We have to call his bluff now and send the very latest weapons and planes immediately to the Ukraine - and plenty of them. Alternatively Nato goes in. Putin's got his red line, and we have to show him that we've also got ours... and he's crossed it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Even as someone who has been defending the West and NATO's stance in terms of direct military intervention:

    My immediate reaction to these images is to desire a mass military buildup on the borders of Russia/Belarus/Ukraine and to start serious preparation for military action against any and all Russian forces not inside Russian territorial waters or landmasses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Enough is enough. All diplomatic ties severed right now. Huge war crimes committed.

    Filatov should be escorted to Dublin airport now.

    This is incredibly angering to see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Apparently an abandoned post outside the capital - stereo speakers comfort but looks like these lads didn't loot the shops, nick the spirits, get hammered and make a mess of the position and get killed or run away.

    I reckon these are from the Russian side Public Relations - no way they'd allow the non-approved take the photos this close. Mariupol apparently.


    Some horrific stuff coming out of it today.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That video about the 331st gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling. I mean if anyone has to die then I can't think of many I'd rather than Russian paratroopers who just got back from bullying a bunch of Kazakhs before thinking they were going to walk over their neighbour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,345 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Visits the Russian Ukraine forum in the conspiracy theory forum if you want a laugh.


    Apparently we are all USA bots and part of the conspiracy out to destroy poor Putin and Russia.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Putin will have a victory parade on 9 May regardless the status of the war

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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