Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Yes but the angry hard pressed working man motorist brain will not be able to take the full picture on board. This is all Greens and salad box Ryan's fault.

My previous post was in reaction to the following: "your reaction would suggest that you think that no car journeys being made currently, are unnecessary?" Note NO car journeys. I did not state that, hence my reply.

I was not talking about my car journeys, so to say its me making it all about me is a complete misrepresentation. When i referred to "my" car journeys, maybe I should have said anyone's car journeys, for the benefit of people who are looking for offence. It's typical of the ad hominem nonsense coming from people who don't know how to have a rational argument. I must say it reveals the self-righteous nature of so many people on threads like this.

The Census tells us that large numbers of car journeys are <4km, distances that could easily be walked or cycled. But instead, most of them choose to sit in their multi-tonne tank, usually surrounded by four empty seats, and complain about cyclists taking up all the space on the road.

See the irony?

Car journeys of <4km can be quite necessary, like my drive to stock up in the local supermarket, or perhaps take an elderly relative to visit the doctor.

ANdrew J Renko: you said in reply to me: "The tired oul trope of bringing me granny to the doctor to justify driving to shops for milk or worse, driving to the gym for exercise."

That twists and misrepresents what I said.

I know what you were doing but it seems like a vacuous post to bother clarifying. Johnnyrotten was basically saying: “Oh no, my part of dublin which is probably well served by buses and has a heavy rail line doesn’t also have a light rail line so it’s unacceptable to build a cycle lane because everyone is forced to drive.”

I got rid of my car 15 years ago, so by any measure I should have starved to death years ago. It is a mystery how I stay so well nourished.

I walk or cycle the 2.5km to work, and on the way pass the houses of a couple of colleagues who drive. They then regularly spend tea break bemoaning the traffic. Pointing out that walking would be quicker is met with horror!

Metro got delayed because of short sighted selfish moaners who didn't want a gaa pitch impacted, some who didn't want their road dug up, etc. Not too dissimilar to your opening post. We have crap infrastructure in Ireland because too many people don't want their precious roads touched, so they can sit in traffic that is caused by themselves and others sitting in their cars but then blame the lad on a bike who is taking up the least amount of space on said road.

Fairview is a disgrace to cycle through, both directions. Outbound in the evenings was a death waiting to happen, because of the selfish behaviour of...yes you guessed it, drivers. Illegal parking, illegal turns, illegal bus lane use, and illegal breaking of lights at the Malahide Road junction every single day!

I cycle, I drive, I use public transport. And I want to see the best infrastructure available for all. If that means roads have to be dug up and drivers impacted then so be it.

I worked in a law firm in the IFSC before and several partners who lived in Clontarf drove in every day. They couldn't be seen on public transport :D That's what BIK free parking at work results in, particularly in the city centre.

I'm in D5 and my wife works in Harold's Cross. She has tried all sorts of options for her commute, bus x 2, dart and bus, dart and cycle, driving. All pretty crap options from her experience. She was essential worker during Covid and the drive time reduced to 23 minutes with the reduction of vehicles on the roads. Otherwise the drive can be an hour plus.