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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Pure evil this regime. It's unfathomable how people can think like this and diagram that.

    Also I'm fearful people worrying over cost of living will turn some of the more self serving amongst us against Ukrainians. We must realise the cost of sanctions against the Russians is going to have an impact in our wartime economy.

    It's a price I for one am willing to pay.



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sadly a lot of technology comes from war/military research, including in part the media and technology you are using to post your opinions, and the microwave oven you might have.

    I understand what you are saying, but in another analogy you have some people claiming that God talks to them, but rather than being locked up other people put them on T. V. and send them money.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Our holidays, well-fitting clothes, and "much needed" home makeovers are NOT more important than even a tiny fraction of what the Ukrainian people are enduring. We are lazy, dumbed-down, self-absorbed and marinated in luxury. The Ukrainian people are LITERALLY our front line troops.

    The "Soviet" ethos is built on the unimportance of people, that's why it's continued promotion needs to be stopped. The "Soviet" ethos is gargantuan bullsh!t.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Good theories there. I am not sure that Ukraine actually shot down those IL76's though?

    But indeed, it sounds plausible. Plan A, rush the capital's airport, fly in thousands of paratroopers, take over key institutions and TV, declare victory to the nation, over in hours. With a backup three day plan B to encircle the capital. It's obvious things went very, very wrong with Russian plans.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    While my concerns about a wider nuclear exchange has receded a fair bit, I sadly won't be too surprised if a tactical nuke is indeed deployed by Russia in Ukraine. I hope I'm very very wrong, but if so I'd reckon it will be fired on a "military target"(or one made up by Russia) rather than a city. The ultimate sabre rattle by putin and one he knows will work unlike his army and air force. Sadly the West can't really respond in kind or things go to an absolute hell very very quickly and putin knows it or at least believes it. Plus he's much less likely to get pushback from underlings all the way to the actual button pusher compared to targeting a city. And what has he got to further lose? Russia is a pariah state already. His foreign reserves are frozen, he's politically frozen out, his oligarch lords are squeezed to hell and Russia is looking down both barrels of at least a decade of recession, if not depression. Sanctions are very strong and likely to get stronger as nations pivot away from Russian assets like oil and gas. But him and his will always be looked after. IMHO the tactical nuke is more of an option for him now, after his original plan to take Kyiv and install a puppet is in tatters.

    If he does loose that horror on the world then Russia and yes, Russians too should, must be completely and utterly frozen out of the civilised world and anyone who gives them succour ditto. Close embassies, expel their diplomats and businessmen and women. Heavily fine any western business that deals with them and sanction any nation who does.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Russia have a huge victim mentality the psychopathic ****.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I suspect that arrangements may be in place between Russian military and the "West" in the event that Putin goes full rogue.

    The "West" may even have had a "quiet word" in Putin's ear, to the effect that his nuclear plans, if implemented, might not execute as he envisages.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s worth also understanding the psychology of simple empathy vs compassion.

    Empathy is a bit like a mirror. It allows you to project yourself into, feel and interpret what others feel. It’s huge part of what we are and how we socially function. It’s usually very positive, but people can also just become completely overwhelmed, go cold and dismissive, or even become aggressive towards what they start to perceive as a source of pain, as they can’t process it.

    You see that for example with the response that someone might have by cutting off and not contacting a friend who has a terminal illness or some complex and painful situation like has been recently bereaved.

    It’s usually not out of nastiness, but an empathetic response that has been completely overwhelmed and they can’t cope.

    It’s also why some medics and similar can become cold / hard and unapproachable. Others become compassionate and helpful, but don’t allow themselves to just burn out.

    The contrast is a compassionate response, where you have a sense of empathy, but it triggers a response to do something to attempt to help and solve the problem for the person you’re feeling empathy for and your sense of having helped drives you.

    It’s extremely important that in a crisis situation we focus on that kind of response and not simply become overwhelmed and burn out. That’s also the problem with modern communication technology. It can elicit a huge empathic response, but can be so overwhelming that people begin to burn out. It keeps highlighting the horror and doesn’t always provide a context where people can help.

    Ireland has shown a huge degree of practical response in terms of helping refugees and I think that’s hugely important in how we process this ourselves too. It’s all too easy to watch & become burned out and just build a mental wall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Too late now Tony, sanctions are coming back in your face more than you could imagine.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Why are atrocities being carried out by some at least of the Russian army? Are they evil? Brainwashed? Desensitised by the war? Because they can? To cause terror? To demoralise the Ukrainians?



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Was discussing this with someone upthread and they reckoned if Putin dropped a nuke or two on Ukraine the West would have to respond with massive air strikes on the Russian motherland. But IMO that would seriously risk nuclear escalation and what exactly would be the point? To 'teach Putin a lesson'? Surely he would be far beyond the point of learning lessons at that stage?

    If he does go down that road your plan is about the best the West could do in response

    If he does loose that horror on the world then Russia and yes, Russians too should, must be completely and utterly frozen out of the civilised world and anyone who gives them succour ditto. Close embassies, expel their diplomats and businessmen and women. Heavily fine any western business that deals with them and sanction any nation who does.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Unless you intend to personally enlist in the army of a NATO country there is no "we".



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭storker


    What they've done to date is already so far beyond the pale that your last paragraph should already be in effect.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,512 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Many have been brainwashed into believing the Ukrainians are actual Nazis. If they are resisting the invasion, that must mean they are anti-Russia, "therefore they must be Nazis".



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Torry party and brexiters need Russian money to much for that to happen.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    It's just so weird that Gadaffi and Hussein wound up on the end of a rope, I can only think of the Petro Dollar as the reason for dictators in loony toon socieities being hung



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I would level the same accusation at the Irish government, because it is their and Macron's fault. Here there is both excise and VAT applied, so when the price rises, the government gets a huge tax windfall it shouldn't bloody get because VAT is a percentage. It is well within the remit of governments to maintain the amount of revenue they get from fossil fuels when prices rise dramatically by either having a wholly excise flat rate system or by decreasing the VAT in times like these. But what actually happens is they rub their greedy little mitts together in glee at the prospect of the windfall.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Possibly, but I think the only reason that it has actually worked pretty well so far is that the permanent members includes the major opposing sides who all have a veto. It's weighted against Russia or China though because of France and the UK, so to make it "fair" would need to boot them off their seats, but then it becomes weighted against the US.

    It is likely the best setup that could be done whilst keeping everyone wanting to participate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,053 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    But to what end Wibbs? What would Ukraine's reaction be to a 'tactical nuclear weapon' or some other WMD exploded on or over a military installation? Would they capitulate? I don't think so and are smart enough to have their eggs in many baskets. So what would the Russian regime gain from it? They'd have an awful lot more to lose. Isn't that the inherent problem with the nuclear threat - you either go big or go home. If they go big, well major catastrophe for all including many Russian cities. Nuclear weapons are clearly there as a last minute defensive stopgap, they're not an offensive weapon that any sane administration would consider.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Early days, yet, lad.

    Anyway, the idea that America tries to topple leaders based on which currency they choose to sell their oil and gas in has been fairly well combed over and debunked.


    This isn't to mention that Putin's dropping of the dollar came after he decided to invade Ukraine and the backlash which followed. If anyone deserves the fate of Saddam and Gaddafi, it's Putin.

    Anyway, until the next uninspired episode of "Yes, Russia are executing people in the streets, but what about America?" ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    $30 billion - someone can't do maths or is really out of the loop.

    "Mariupol City Council Estimates Rebuild Will Cost at Least $10 Billion"

    "There is a need to allocate EUR 100 billion from the EU budget to rebuild Ukraine’s destroyed infrastructure.

    "A restoration plan is needed, which I also discussed with the President of the European Commission. For example, EUR 100 billion that would be allocated by the European Union to restore the destroyed infrastructure, schools, hospitals, bombed residential areas in the coming years," Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki said, Ukrinform reports." https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/3417882-poland-puts-forward-eur-100b-plan-to-rebuild-ukraine-from-eu-budget.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    With what has and is being uncovered in the village Dacha, something a soldier with the territorial defense forces (Sergeiy Torovik (53) said when they had found dead bodies in a basement of a house... “We found 18 bodies in there,”....“They had been torturing people. Some of them had their ears cut off. Others had teeth pulled out. There were kids like 14, 16 years old, some adults. They just took the bodies away yesterday.”

    I posted about this parasite, Alexei Milchakov, way back in the thread. What the territorial defense soldier witnessed is identical to the crimes Milchakov committed while in Donbas. He went from mutilating and decapitating animals to serving in the army where he mutilated corpses by cutting off the ears and the nose. He could well have escalated in the war to the additional crimes above, psychopaths like this escalate in crime. It's been confirmed that he is fighting in this conflict with the Wagner group, so I suspect it has something to do with this

    Alexei Milchakov is a Russian neo-Nazi, who commanded the so-called ‘Batman’ Spetsnaz Rapid Response Unit operating out of Luhansk that reported directly to the GRU. this is where he won the reputation of being a sadist and is known for his barbarity fighting against Ukraine in Donbas, 2014-15. A level of depravity akin to the SS-Dirlewanger Brigade. I'm not surprised as he was convicted in his native St Petersburg over his sadistic cruelty to animals. Milchakov was an instructor in a camp where 300 young Russians were trained to be fighters in the Moscow region. The subversive and reconnaissance military group 'Rusich' which includes Russian nationalists set up by him was also utilized the training of young and old recruits, and waq present in Donbas. In addition to this Milchakov went on to fight with the Wagner Group in Syria

    I agree with Sergeiy, the soldier:

    “The Russian soldiers are lower than animals. Animals don’t do what they did. We shouldn’t take them hostage. They must die. They must be destroyed.”



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If Russia launch a nuke to make a point then NATO should then respond. But they don't have to send more nukes back at Russia which just leads to know where good. They could use masses of conventional bombs on any number of military bases along the edges of Russia though and have a sufficiently devastating effect on them.

    If Russia does want all out nuclear war then the west can launch back at them, but don't need to do that from a one off strike. It must be possible for Nato to give Putin a very bloody nose in response, without needing to resort to nukes themselves.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    They are too stupid to be capable of comprehending any kind of universal fairness.

    They are intellectually infantile and unable to appreciate any other person's existence, let alone quality of life.

    Some of them enjoy doing these things and take full advantage of the smokescreen of war.



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