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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    As I am catching up on the thread, you left out a word or two. It should have said.

    "My point was clear and concise and incorrect. I have nothing more to post on the subject."

    And you speak of posters 'running away'? 😂

    Is it outrage or Irony? Not sure which word we should be randomly using today.

    Post edited by Suckit on


  • Posts: 2,725 [Deleted User]


    Cost of living very much the issue bothering voters at the moment. Stuff like Crime, NI, Covid scoring very low. United Ireland not featuring at all.




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    .



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Those are the percentages of people who want things 'dealt with'. A list of what the government needs to do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Nothing really surprising in that. It is what most people would expect to see. A lot of problems to be fixed in this country before any thoughts can be made towards a united Ireland.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I would imagine cost of living has overlaps with the housing/rental crisis and high cost of private healthcare.

    Again FF and FG are hamstrung with what they can do because they have gone to the magical money tree way too much leaving us with a massive national debt. Tough times ahead and very little room for manoeuvre. You reap what you sow.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    If you want to discuss paid accounts on social media then start a thread or contact a mod would be my suggestion. Take it or leave it of course

    Not sure why you are running around with constant snide little comments. Maybe try discuss a topic for once, it’s getting extremely boring seeing this rubbish on every post from you



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Hugo Sheridan


    Correct, and I read this morning that our esteemed Govt have admitted that their great master plan of MUP has contributed to the spiralling rate of inflation. (That's according to the dept of finance by the way).

    That stroke will do them wonders at the ballot box with young voters and those struggling to meet ends meet I should imagine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    First mention of a 'paid account' was from your good self in post 8145.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I cannot find the actual link but I saw this headline in the newsagents this morning.

    The Irish Mail on Sunday leads with a story on deaths linked to delays at A&E and how over 2,000 people died each year waiting on trolleys.

    What the papers say: Sunday's front pages (echolive.ie)

    Some legacy.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A&E delays are also strongly linked to a lack of stepdown facilities for people who should not be in hospital anyway and those waiting to leave.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,942 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That is a very strange post. You first of all state that Sinn Fein said last time out they would talk to anyone - yet they didn't and that was a lie, even PBP complained about SF not talking to them - and you guess they will tell the same lie again, but then you go on in your next sentence to question whether FG and FF will get away with lying again when you have just foreseen that SF will do exactly that. Weird stuff.

    As this is the government thread, I won't get any further into discussing SF on it, was only responding to your upside-down logic, so will leave it there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    "As this is the government thread, I won't get any further into discussing SF on it"

    Yeah right! 🤣🤣🤣

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Hmmm weren't you embarrassed into silence gilding this lily before? When presented with the evidence you disappeared for a few days if I remember correctly.




  • Registered Users Posts: 27,942 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You present more evidence of Sinn Fein saying they will discuss it, but still zero evidence of them actually doing what they said, therefore providing further support to the idea that Sinn Fein lied. That is my final word in this thread on the lies that Sinn Fein told after the election.

    @Cluedo Monopoly I only replied to this because Francie once again made false accusations against me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think you find this was said by RBB -

    Mr Boyd Barrett noted in his letter that “radical and necessary changes in policy will simply not take place under a government involving Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil”.

    The two parties had, prior to the outbreak of Covid-19 in Ireland, reached “an advanced stage” to develop a programme for government, with Solidarity-People Before Profit calling for such talks to resume.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RBB published a letter he wrote to MLMD and the usual crew put 2+2 together and got 43 and have been misrepresenting what happened since.

    Stock carry on really.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Yes not a great list for government. Housing and health still high and government corruption/incompetence in the running. Not making much of a positive change after all this time swapping seats. Figured they'd be still pushing Brexit for a diversion but we have the war in Ukraine. Sad to see Covid join the business as usual category. Not to worry, I'm sure they'll resurrect Covid and Brexit to shake off any accountability down the road.

    It's very telling that the government take away seems to be no United Ireland talk. Might explain the state of things.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    I have no wish to talk about paid accounts, it was yourself that started with that. I am unsure where you get the impression that I am running around with anything.

    It seems you are finding it hard to stomach the taste of your own medicine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    i already gave my opinion and you should start a thread on it.

    I doubt you will and I will continue to see these pointless posts hoping to get a reaction to run to the mods.

    🦜



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,937 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Practically the same list of as were on the table in 2020. Doesn't augur well does it?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Blanch is right. Discussing SF in this thread could lead to a warning from Mods.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    So you gave an opinion? is your opinion suffering outrage for my opinion? Even if we leave that (another question you would never answer), You are telling me I should start a thread on your opinion. Seriously. WTF.. - Just to clarify. I won't be starting a thread on your opinion. 😂

    You are one to talk about pointless posts. As I said. Your own medicine.

    In any case, I have never reported a post to any mod on any forum at any time. No matter how pointless and ridiculous your posts are.

    I can't understand the reasoning or the phrasing behind the 2nd sentence in your post.

    "I doubt you will and I will continue to see these pointless posts"... etc... yet you posted it anyway. . In your own words.. "pointless". At least you claimed that one.

    Post edited by Suckit on


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,942 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    And the point of your post (apart from talking about other posters) is?

    Does that mean that you have just met your own definition of pointless?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No wonder they did not publish this report.

    9 hospitals did not appear to provide safe care: review (rte.ie)

    An independent review of unplanned care at nine hospitals for the Health Service Executive has found that sometimes there was no clear understanding of who was providing the patients' care.

    The Independent Review of Unplanned Care covered the years 2018-2019.

    Due to emergency department pressures, it said there was widespread placing of patients in any bed, any time, anywhere, including mixed gender.

    It said this did not create extra capacity, but led to safari rounds, increased length of stay and introduced harm by non-specialist care and increased staff absenteeism.

    None of the nine hospitals were found to operate a 24/7 model of care or appeared to provide safe and effective care.

    The unpublished report was secured by the Irish Patients Association under the Freedom of Information Act.

    Steve McMahon of the Irish Patients Association, said it had taken 17 months to get the report and that it sheds light on why Ireland is seeing a number of systemic failures which are not purely accidental.

    It found that not only did the nine hospitals have the highest number of patients on trolleys during the year, they were also shown to have deteriorated over the previous five years, except for St Vincent's.

    On its visit to University Hospital Waterford, the review team found that some patients were on trolleys for four to five nights on a hospital corridor.

    A lack of capacity and a shortage of staff and funding were consistent underlying themes.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The report is somewhat outdated, as improvements have been made, as explained in the article you quoted.

    “In opting not to publish the report in 2020, the HSE told the Department of Health that the benefit of releasing the report has significantly diminished in that its principle recommendation was to accelerate the implementation of the Capacity Review of 2018 and that many measures had been put in place since.

    HSE Chief Operations Officer Anne O'Connor told the Department of Health that the review had been conducted at a particular point in time, during 2019 and "prior to the impact of the learning from winter 2018/2019".

    She said the findings of the review were largely predictable and reflective of work already under way, including shifting demand to the community.”



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,942 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Have read the report.

    It is critical of hospital management and staff on the ground. One of the key findings for me is that "Non-admitted patients account for 75% of those attending and in a number of hospitals overcrowding was a function of long waits especially at peak times" and "assessment and short stay units were frequently poorly functioning due to long lengths of stay, inappropriate admissions (often out of hours), and boarding of patients that blocked the flow of those patients that the units were designed to manage".  Essentially, three-quarters of the people who go to emergency departments don't need to be there and can be treated in the community and hospital staff are indulging them, reducing quality of treatment for those that need it.

    This Report demonstrates that the problem is as far away from political responsibility as possible. Probably belongs in a thread about the HSE rather than one about the government.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yes yes its all fixed now. Deny Deny Deny.

    March 2022 has been the worst March for overcrowding since the INMO began counting trolleys in 2006.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    But you said we had the best nurse to bed ratio in the EU...???

    The report suggests capacity issues across the board. Highlighted during Covid. As bad as ever now.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,942 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The two points are fully compatible. Too few beds, too many nurses, equals the best nurse to bed ratio in the EU. Which bit of that do you not understand?

    The picture painted by the report is of nurses running around with their arms in the air shouting don't panic while waiting for someone else to make a decision and not enough responsibility being taken at the frontline. Read it again, but better start a thread about it because it does require a discussion about the madness of the hospitals.



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