Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Yes, I think the fact that their advance on Kyiv ended in humiliating defeat and a rapid withdrawal was a big factor. They decided to trash the place on the way out and kill as many civilians as possible.

It was an area controlled by the Russians for several weeks. When the Russians fled those arriving within around 24 hours discovered fresh corpses on the streets, backyards and down in basements. I presume any killed during the occupation and buried will be exhumed and examined to determine cause of death. Witnesses will also provide statements. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians start bombing the area to hinder investigations. Also, I believe the investigations will be carried out by several bodies, the Ukrainian prosecutors, possibly ICC investigators and others.

get putin round for peace talks and poison the bag of scum. He deserves a slow agonising death.

Which neatly avoids the claims that Russia brought mobile crematoria and thousands of body-bags for a military action which was only supposed to take some two or three weeks maximum. Or the detailed instructions on how to dig mass graves.

And also avoids the claims of people going missing in various other areas of Ukraine where there was very little or no resistance like Kherson and Melitopol.

It's also avoiding the fact that Russia has been gunning down civilians since day 1; this is not something that happened only as they started the pull out of Kyiv.

So I don't even buy that they had the excuse of being defeated and feeling like "taking revenge": this was pre-meditated and systemic beyond the level of the ordinary grunt, beyond the level of those kinds of possible mitigating factors. It seems clear to me they were either given tactit permission or explicit instruction to conduct themselves in this manner; and we have seen evidence of this all over Ukraine.

The Russian army have come out of this across as an unhinged and unorganized pack of idiots to be honest. Undisciplined battalions probably pissed out of their heads on Vodka murdering civilians and losing all over the place.

They've given Putin an even bigger problem. He doesn't have control of his army.

Well, whatever about dogs, they seem to like to rape and murder little children. When not tick-tocking, of course.

https://mobile.twitter.com/expatua/status/1510650237429370892?t=bKJNopz-3-tyYqRiWIzoJg&s=19

The above is not verified yet the reports of other little girls who have been raped makes it a believable case. What else but to wish the scum the very same fate? I do, with all my heart.

Anything that they can recover, and repair / cannibalize they will. These ate expensive machines, and spare parts may not be readily available for them, especially if these parts are manufactured in the west now that sanctions are in place.

Putin ( hereafter called "The Emperor" ) was repeatedly told by his loyal advisors that indeed he was right in his thinking that it was really him they wanted to rule over them in the breakaway province, which has been hijacked in an illegal election. In fact they were waiting with flowers and vodka to welcome his army, and all was going according to plan with the new Government waiting to step in, as soon as the foreign imposed Govt fled. And of course your Majesty, should there be any foreign inspired resistance, no worries, you have one of the most up to date and best equipped military's in the whole world. There devotion to you is 100%.They are of course willing to die for you and the Motherland.

I cant believe that a *discreet* bounty of 100 million or so hasn't been offered to a few professional mercenaries for the head of Putin.

I cant believe that Nato and the US will not intervene when the most horrific war crimes are being committed on a daily basis.

I cant believe that an entire country with 40 million people can be allowed to be systematically destroyed.

I cant believe that the free world will not stand up and confront the threat of nuclear retaliation for any interference.

I cant believe there are those concerned only for their own skin because of the nuclear threat, so the raping and murder of little girls continues.

I cant believe that a solitary man can be allowed to do exactly as he pleases, for as long as he pleases, and to whom he pleases.

I cant believe that the human race stands by and watches all of this.

I believe if a God exists then mankind will pay the ultimate price for its disgrace.

He doesn't do it to whom he pleases, he preys on the vulnerable, you won't see him invaded his hated America any time soon, instead he murders his "cousins", he is really just a coward.

Also I believe all these things because they have been happening somewhere in the world since the dawn of civilisation but that doesn't make it right.

It's not ships that are the problem; I don't believe Ukraine have once asked for anti-ship missiles. Russia haven't even attempted an amphibious landing and we're in the 2nd month already; you have to imagine every landing position is heavily mined and fortified at this stage.

They need air defences and aircraft; neither of which the West seems to be willing to provide. They have asked for tanks although I have no idea why; tank crews require lots of training to be effective and tanks aren't exactly the best idea without proper air support.

Also I haven't seen any reputable source on the ship being damaged. Remember they also claimed to have sank a different ship earlier in the war which has since been proven false.

Well they did...

"KIEV (RIA Novosti): The Ukrainian authorities have asked the United States to provide anti-ship missiles “Harpoon”, Ukrainian edition of ZN.UA reported on Monday."

"To bolster its defenses against invading Russian forces, Ukraine is asking the Biden administration for armed drones, anti-ship missiles, “off-the-shelf” electronic jamming equipment and surface-to-air missiles that can strike aircraft at a higher altitude, according to four sources with knowledge of the request.'"

"According to another source, Ukraine has been asking for lethal aid on the Black Sea, and the UK has "a list of what they require and we try and meet it where we can. The PM is committed to helping Ukraine defend itself and he will support that need.”

Unlike other allies who have been prudent in sending additional aid until a provocation comes from Russia, Johnson disagrees. According to a senior government source, "Boris says we don't need another trigger... He [Putin] has already crossed the line ... Whatever Zelensky asks for he will get if we have it.”

Props to Boris Johnson! The contrast with Germany couldn't be greater.

Predictably the Russians are denying the reports of mass killings and genocide in Bucha and elsewhere.

In a number of online statements the Russian authorities claim "no residents suffered from any violent action" And allegedly "Russian servicemen distributed 452 t of humanitarian aid to civilians"

And if those lies weren't enough this additional bit is the real clincher

After all, we’re not members of the ICC,” the state-run TASS news agency quoted Peskov, the Kremlin Press Secretary as saying.

In other news Anonymous are stating that they have just published the name, rank, and other details of 120,000 Russian servicemen obtained from a recent hack of Russian communications.