Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Judging by the 900 cars sporting Russian flags that drove through Berlin yesterday, plenty of them buy the Russian propaganda even when abroad or just don't care. Incomprehensible and nauseating.

And yet they don't have the threat of automatic arrest or a prison sentence. That's the sign of a healthy democracy.

Christ lads.

The fact that there's people actually questioning this out there.that aren't solely fed the Russian speil, That are on this side of the curtain.

Also that it's not just one or two people, makes me actually lose hope for humanity.

To see that poor woman in that report. I cried sad tears with her this morning. Still have a lump thinking of j3r.

And then you've got these sorry excuses for gobshítes.

Never said I don't like them. Yet so many people keep repeating it. So stop patronising me.

I only call on their populist talks nothing more. A lot of companies based in Poland are still trading with Russia. Yet Polish government will call EU about sanctions, while doing nothing themselves. Words costs nothing. You want to buy it, your choice.

EDIT: read "guys" instead of "gays", though it is worth considering, if they are gays :)

There's an air of if it doesn't affect me don't be bothering me with some people. I have acquaintances like this.

I'm very fearful that in time Ukrainian refugees will feel the wrath of the narrow minded over increases in cost of living, lack of accomodation and every other woe they can find.

Imagine living in your peaceful home with a lovely life and all of that is gone overnight. Loved ones gone, careers gone the life you had planned gone. It doesn't seem impossible now that one day it could happen here.

Some of the all right jacks need to get that into their thick skulls and show some empathy. As humans we have an obligation to help out the less fortunate and understand them where we can.

Anyone who complains about bringing in Ukrainian refugees will be promptly told to **** off.

Most of these types didn't care about homelessness here until they needed it as a debating prop to be anti refugee.

Baltic countries not messing around

it seems very unlikely that we can accommodate 100 k ukrainians.

But we can damn well try.

Ha, you are on some kind of right/left rant here. Not everything comes down to that. I believe the issue with Poland was that they decided to unilaterally remove the supremacy of the European court of justice in Poland, thereby pretty much leaving the eu in all but name. They can overule ecj rulings in Poland, so as far as I can see they can pick and choose what legislation they want to follow, defacto leaving the European union without a vote. Nothing to do with the "gays" I think.

For every war crime very few ever see justice and even then it often takes years.

How many of the thousands of war criminals down through the years have gotten off scot free.

Yeah we can point to a few like the Nuremberg trials, but thousands upon thousands of SS, Gestapo and wehrmacht went on to lead normal lives.

Did any of the Soviets ever get even tried for their atrocities?

Even cut to more recent wars like Yugoslavia or Rwanda ?

Yeah a few high profile ones were made examples of, but did the ones that carried out the murders and rapes of Srebrenica see justice.

If you want real justice you carry it out in the field.

Tito's partisans, the Greeks, the French, the Russians themselves all understood this. That's why so many Germans wanted to surrender to the Brits or the Yanks.

What the hell are you on?

Because the Russians are bogged down in Ukraine right next door to them, they should open a second front in Ireland thousands of miles away?

If they want to screw with the West they can try cut Trans Atlantic communications cables not bloody well invade the Beara peninsula.

Yes definitely an I'm alright jack vibe with some, it's sickening. The same guy that I had the run in with wouldn't give 2 fu@ks about the Irish homeless until now, it's just a way for him to be anti refugee. I told him this too but it's pointless really, an unfortunate mixture of ignorance and lack of empathy.

Oh but I do grasp exactly what happens in a nuclear confrontation.

Whatever makes you think that someone you so casually term a "craw thumping emotional" must be ignorant of elementary nuclear facts?

My opinion, and that is an opinion shared by many, many others, is that we should confront the situation. I'm not so naive as to propose attacking Russia itself (as you will note from my previous posts), but I do suggest an intervention in Ukraine. The alternative is we allow this madman to continue perpetrating his horrors for how long?... and who's next in his firing line?... and what's to say he wont use nuclear warheads now or in the future regardless of our inactivity?

My strong belief is that a humane world should not just stand idly by whilst the most horrendous of crimes are repeatedly committed day after day. And this will continue not just in this war but in many future wars to come the more we turn a blind eye. And yes, I do put the lives of innocent little girls who die defiled and terrified with no-one at their side, above my own fears of nuclear threats. And I'm proud of that. I don't believe anyone has the right to hold their own existence above that of others.

I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again... We've none of us the right to a future on this planet if we can't confront the butchers of this world and we continue to allow such horrors to be perpetrated, nuclear threat or no nuclear threat. That threat is never going away so do we just allow these atrocities to continue forever and a day? Is a life of fear, foreboding and exposure to these horrors acceptable for our future generations, or do we take the slight nuclear risk and intervene now, thereby setting a precedent for future warmongers and despots?

The analogy is the monkey, bear or some such wild animal confined to a tiny cage for the entirety of its life, poked and prodded every day. If it had a choice would it just accept that existence for the rest of its days, or would it fight for its freedom knowing there's a slight risk it could be shot dead? I believe almost every animal would fight. We cant let the nuclear bars keep us in that cage.

I was a member of Boards many, many years ago but I drifted away, and then forgot my login and password so rejoined again. I've had much respect for a lot of your previous posts but I have to say that since you've become a moderator I've noticed that an increasing number of your posts now incorporate distinctly condescending undertones. I wouldn't class them as intending to belittle people in any way, but an intelligent man such as yourself will know exactly what I mean.

To suggest I am a "craw thumper" is somewhat derogatory. To further suggest "you still cant grasp what happens" is implying my ignorance as opposed to your perceived knowledge. I find this quite insulting, more so coming from you. I wont hold my breath for an apology.

What's the deal with France these days. Why is the country refusing to send anything useful to Ukraine?

Is there any website showing an overview of what equipment different countries are sending.