Did the USA play a significantly negative role in events leading to Ukraine invasion?

Indeed. Sticking it to the "smart people" and "official narratives" by making up alternative stories.

No. Not making up. He repeats things he's told.

He only makes things up when he gets stuck in a corner and has to bullshit his way out.

Why did the Nazis leave the concentration camps behind...

Oh... right... Holocaust denier...

This is Bucha a month ago.

You seem to have this notion that because the area around the bodies is damaged from earlier in the conflict, that "bombs" were the cause of death. Okay, but how come few or any of the bodies show any signs of being killed by bombs? In fact, looks to me like most of these people were shot, not blown up.

The people with their hands tied behind their back (on the streets and in the basements), we can all agree they have been executed.

This was an area controlled by Russians. Every local witness is saying the same thing, that the Russians military were murdering people and looting, why is that? are they all lying do you think?

So far there are no witnesses whatsoever or no evidence that anyone one else did this, do you think that someone else did this? what's your evidence for that?

And to repeat the question: what evidence would convince you that these people were killed by Russian soldiers?

Putin started this war. The problem with the Ukrainian supporter brigade they don’t have any understanding of world history and why Nato helping Ukraine would be a matter of real concern for Russia. America nearly had WW3 with Russia over Cuba and ready to go all in to take out those nukes hundreds of miles away. Were their determinations/ national security concerns any different/ or unique to Russian ones? Planned an assault of Cuba with troops and airplanes?

Why is Putin evil and western Europe leaders are class acts for destroying cities in Syria, Libya, and Iraq? Where the western people outrage for the starving kids of Yemen. A country has the worst conditions far worse than Ukraine but I never saw a 1000 page thread for them. Most of this bleeding hearts never around in those threads. Is it racism- why people dont get out the flags for them? Or is western war on poor countries justified by these manics?

Nobody knows what the playbook is for Ukraine is, but I don’t believe this was a military failure by Russia., Well, the western media was on about Kyiv military failures by Russia. Russia forces were capturing all the South coast from Ukraine and still are in control of it. Now with the South campaign over for the most part. East side the Ukraine army has a genuine problem over getting encircled and wiped out.. Russia hitting their fuel depots probably running low on fuel ( ukraine army) to even move equipment around and since western media blocking one side opinion of the war we dont see how bad of shape the Ukraine army in right now. War in the east will reveal alot about the military strength of the Ukraine army after one month of fighting.

Why are you so naive to fact that there is a brutal war on?

Russia invaded Ukraine.

The population most part will side with the Ukraine government. There be pro- Russians help the Russian army of course yet they end up dead in clean-up operations, but this is used against Russia. Russia killed these men? ( look at the atrocities blame game)

We don’t know if Ukraine forces captured Russian soldiers and Sympathisers in Bucka and they murdered them and look what Russia did here. These isolated events are very hard to investigate as there now sanitized for an audience.

The west is currently carrying out an offensive/media war against Russia so it's very hard to say if Russia truly killing people on way out of places when retreating or all part of a disinformation war against them,. Its very possible some Russian thug soldiers killed civilians, but dont believe it was preplanned event.

Shelling often does not blow up bodies to kill them. Go on Twitter find plenty of photographs of bodies on streets similar to Bucka and cause was of death was shelling (caption)

Again false.

JFK and 9/11 and Holocaust.

The event- for the most part, occurred as the official narrative outlines.

There is a backstory and the in-between stuff- " hidden and kept secret from the public (debunkers don't bother with it or choose to ignore).

Got known would fundamentally change our understanding of that event. Holocaust less so because we know camps existed, Jews were murdered by death squads and so on, we know the Nazi regime was evil and had a doctrine of hate against Jews/slavs/ gypsies/ and other races.

One example: since it's a thread about Russia.

9/11 controlled demolition is something you can’t seem to grasp could have happened!! Explaining this to a child sometimes that building seven first time in all of human history a fire took hold in a steel-framed building brought it down.

Having an opinion that is different from the mainstream makes me crazy and yet never in history happened before in that way by fire but has been done by controlled demolition!!

Who’s the crazy one here. I don’t believe in miracles? 

Yup. Exact same shite. There'll be ghouls combing through the videos and photos looking for anything that can be claimed to be an anomaly. Anything from the colour of someone's shoes, to the position of a car mirror...

Those anomalies will be passed up the line to the grifters who will condense them into formats that play well to the demographic. Usually short attention getting soundbites, memes, and youtube videos. Then their marks, like Cheerful, eat that **** up, never question it, and then donate and start spamming this grifters stuff all over.

The difference is that now cause this stuff is happening far away and to foreigners, it will be a lot less distasteful for the grifters to make **** up about the victims. And there'll be so many, and they'll be so concerned with other stuff, they won't have the time or ability to stop these grifters with lawsuits like they did with Alex Jones.

I'm sure that prick will be all over this crap again as well.

And I'm sure that Cheerful will lap up every word of it.

Always the same.

Not sure what "your party on the internet" means?

Fresh bodies have been discovered in the streets of Bucha and in basements about a day after the Russians left and almost 10 days after the last fighting in the district. Apart from these, according to locals there are several hundred bodies buried in the district, a portion of which are in mass graves. These could be bodies of Russian soldiers killed, but it's unlikely as they would most likely be repatriated. They could also be the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers, but many locals claim they are bodies of civilians.

Civilians get killed during conflict, unfortunately it happens. However the disturbing part of this situation is that locals and witnesses are claiming civilians have been deliberately murdered by Russian soldiers (also allegations of rape and torture). Local and witness testimony backs this up. The fresh bodies on the streets and the fact that some have their hands tied also back this up. Bodies discovered in a basement (and filmed) showed signs of torture and execution. We don't know the scale or size of it yet until the bodies are all examined (either collected or exhumed from single/mass graves) however it's starting to look like the Russian soldiers were involved in killed civilians and summary executions of civilians in Bucha, we just don't know how many. Investigations will determine that.

Back to my question (for the 6th or 7th time): what evidence would convince you that these people were killed by Russian soldiers?

And you claimed that Bucha would be "sanitized" what do you mean by that? Likewise what evidence do you have that this was "fabricated" as you've suggested by Ukraine?

And you believe that the European Union was created by "Nazis". I've noticed they are central to a lot of your conspiracy theories.

Only people with embarrassing posts about 9/11 are from your side.

Building supposedly crushed itself on the way down: according to the official narrative, yet they admit here the building came down at the acceleration of gravity.

Impossible. breaking up the building like this, energy used, to clear things out of the way.

None of you so-called experts care to explain how the acceleration of gravity occurred here. Freefall objects cant do any crushing or bend steel columns or clearing the way of floor space, that cant happen energy will be used if that is case.

Beams and girders and steel and furniture on floors thrown around here during the collapse, energy is used. Facts that people like you ignore.

Lack of self-awareness around your ramblings is stunning. You had an entire post about my views about JFK, 9/11 and the holocaust, then pretend i was first to go off tangent here.