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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Right, he wanted to really get his assertions out there to the public, and have the court of public opinion reach a verdict, because populism is how Trump walked out of 2 impeachments with practically no spine from senate Republicans. All of this comes off the rails if they have to take the matter to a place under oath, where every one of the campaigns assertions to date, thus far, has withered and died. This is why Trump still desperately wants to a) NOT testify to ANYONE, by asserting "Executive Privilege" and b) Have a Debate on TV where he gets a cut of the ratings and can say whatever the **** he wants without risk of perjury, cross-examination, or, legal discovery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Just the mere paranoia that Jared ratted out Trump, even absent ANY other personal suspicions Trump might have racked up with Jared in their relationship to date, will probably rattle him.

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    Q will jump all over this quote,

    Though the details of what he revealed are not known at this time, Virginia Democratic representative Elaine Luria told MSNBC the former first son-in-law provided the panel with “really valuable” information. Speaking to NPR, Luria said, “I think that the committee really appreciates hearing information directly from people who have relevant facts about January 6, and the fact that Jared Kushner came as a witness is helpful to building the story of our investigation.”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Climate is long term not day to day.


    Your Wikipedia link has typically used to describe left wing complaints but not exclusively. Aside from that it fits. Trump and the likes of Orban, Putin etc. want to stop certain groups of society from being insulted (namely themselves and anyone in their good favour).


    In any case the effect is the same if you want to label it political correctness or another word. They want some people protected from insults and for some things to not be said. The main change is if you are trying to protect the disadvantaged or the privileged with it really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It would be really funny if he didn't say anything useful at all and they are just trying to put the wind up trump. I'm sure though that Trump already knows what Kushner said via the republican members of the committee.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There are only 2 Republicans on the Committee - Cheney and Kinsinger.

    Not a hope in hell either of them are giving Trump any insights whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Are committee members the only people in the room? No staff members?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    CNN Newsroom host Jim Acosta interviewed Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), a member of the Jan. 6 committee, about Kushner’s testimony.

    “I know you’re limited how much you can tell us about Kushner’s testimony,” Acosta said after introducing the congresswoman, “but how crucial was it?”

    Lofgren commented that she couldn’t share details of the testimony until there had been a vote of the committee to release the information, and that had not happened regarding Kushner.

    “But you can imagine, if the interview went on all day long, which it did, that there was information exchanged,” said Lofgren.

    “And we appreciate that Mr. Kushner came in,” she continued, and they were “hoping to hear” from Ivanka Trump as well, and had sent her a similar letter requesting her testimony. “We hope that she will follow the path taken by Mr. Kushner.”

    “And was Jared Kushner combative? Was he cooperative?” Acosta asked. “I know you can’t get into the detail of what he said, but for a session that lasted six hours, how would you describe how he was responding to the questions?”

    “He was not combative,” Lofgren replied. “He was precise, and he didn’t volunteer anything, but he did answer questions, if he remembered the answers. So it was not a combative or a, you know, volatile exchange at all.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Fair question - You'd assume that they'd be staffers working for the Committee members which again reduces the likelihood that they'd be "Trump friendly" , but in general DC leaks like a sieve so not unreasonable to suggest that the information is out there somehow.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Kingsinger isn't standing in the midterms so his staff will be out of a job in less than 12 months. I'm sure they are looking to their futures



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Since Truth Social was mentioned here the other day, the BBC are now also reporting it as a failure:

    Nearly 1.5 million on the wait list. I'm thinking that maybe no-one is actually processing new sign-ups. One curious bit of text pops up in the article that gave me pause: "But quite why the app is having so many problems has baffled experts."

    "Baffled experts?" Come on, even an IT hobbyist like myself can easily guess that Trump would cheap out on the back-end infrastructure. He probably threw the bare minimum cash at the same poor fool who made his Wordpress blog to bang together a basic server with a skinned Mastodon platform and didn't do much else. They can't add more than a couple 1000 users, otherwise the server will probably brick itself. I don't see that wait list getting any smaller any time soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs



    That waiting figure brings me back to a previous life when I worked for an AV design/install company. When I started, we had three service vans, they're numbered Van #11, Van#12, and Van#13. I asked the MD where the other ten vans were, he replied 'oh we don't have ten other vans, but the people who see the current vans don't know that and will think we've at least 13 vans on the road and thus are bigger than we are'



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There was a telling quote in one of the articles I read on this earlier(can't find it again now of course!).

    In response to the question "Why isn't Donald Trump posting on the platform?" , the answer given by an insider was "He doesn't want to post on it until it's a hit".

    That quote tells you a few things.

    It tells you that Trump is utterly terrified of failure (as if we didn't already know) and so by not posting on it he can blame everyone else. If he was truthing/tweeting every day like he did before and it was still a dud , then everyone could reasonably claim that he was no longer a draw and that he is a failure.

    He'd more worried about his reputation than he is about the business being successful (of course it will be other people that lose money as it always is when Trump is involved) so he'd prefer for it to collapse rather than risk his perception of his "success".

    The other thing it tells us is that he really is a terrible businessman. Trump is the ONLY attraction for Truth Social , but his ego won't allow him to support it even though every business person with half a brain-cell knows that you do not hold back your only valuable product "until the rest is a success".

    His ego "trumps" business sense every single time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,903 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    With the news that Elon Musk has bought a 9.2% share in Twitter and is now the largest shareholder perhaps Trump might be making a return to Twitter.

    I'm sure that would bring unbridled joy to many.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Not sure that's quite how it works.

    Musk may be a large shareholder , but he doesn't sit on the board and at 9% can't really have an enormous influence on an operational decision like that I would imagine.

    And that's assuming that he'd even be interested in getting into that fight.

    He has enough to worry about regarding his own tweeting habits with the SEC without wading into whether Trump should be allowed back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,903 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its only 9% initially.

    Musk tweeeted a poll last week asking "Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to the principle that Free Speech is essential to a functioning democracy"

    70.4% of respondents said No.

    Musk will have influence, this is a warning shot to management to make changes or else...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I doubt Musk would care too much if Trump was allowed to come back or not. I'd say he's more likely trying to make sure he can reduce criticism of himself, Tesla, and just say whatever he wants. Musk is interested in his freedom of speech, not anyone else's.

    What benefit would there be to Twitter to warrant allowing Trump back? User numbers and shares dropped right after his ban, but have grown since. Twitter has continued to grow without Trump, and the vast majority of his followers are still on Twitter.

    Musk might argue for it, but even though he might be the largest shareholder, his shares still only amount to less than 10%.

    Trump is most likely going to be allowed back on Twitter if/when he fully announces he's running in 2024, because Twitter probably won't want to deal with the argument of providing an unfair advantage to one candidate over another. So they'll allow him back under stated conditions and under the agreement that they'll ban him if he breaks any of those conditions, but that's most likely Trump's way back onto Twitter, with or without Musk.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,731 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Are Twitter about to become big tech that conservatives are suddenly okay with? Survey says without a shred of self awareness they will be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Plus imagine the embarrassment of Trump having to be bailed out by an actual billionaire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,332 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,291 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You won't get an answer. He'd rather try and copy my post over on the biden thread

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    What do you think Musk can do with 9% of the stock? He doesn’t get a board seat and hasn’t the votes to remove or change the board. Even if he did, why would he give Trump a pass? Has he ever said he would?


    You’re clutching at straws.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Seems that the two tech leads just resigned: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-two-key-tech-execs-quit-truth-social-after-troubled-app-launch-2022-04-04/


    "Two key tech execs quit Truth Social after troubled app launch"


    FFS why won't links get expanded. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not

    Reading the article, two other execs were apparently contestants on The Apprentice and the whole show is run by ex-Cow Devin Nunes. No wonder it's a catastrophe.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    So , instead of hiring people with actual experience or ability , Trump does what he always does - he hires people who owe him one or who kiss up to him.

    "Former Apprentice Contestants" is all you need to know - Self-involved narcissists , obviously a great match for Trump but also like Trump likely to be pi$$poor at actually running a business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Musk is correct, free Speech is essential to a functioning democracy. With a 3 billion dollar investment he must be planning on doing something about it. Because democrats are out of control when it comes to censorship and fake news. Any big decision within the company will now require a signature from Musk.. At least we know what side the good guys are on now👌🙂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think some will be confused if they think Musk is on the side of autocoup wannabe depots. Refer to the work Starlink is doing to undermine Trump's BFF, Vladimir "Genius" Putin. As for thinking Musk doesn't believe in speech restriction, refer to Tesla's union-busting and the string of Musk employment lawsuits. He's just as happy to 'champion free speech' as he is to say 'but.' Trump committed a serious autocoup attempt and used Twitter's platform to largely help carry it out. 9% of the company held by a day-trader no less, buys the rest of the company into forgetting that?



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