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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Not sure that's quite how it works.

    Musk may be a large shareholder , but he doesn't sit on the board and at 9% can't really have an enormous influence on an operational decision like that I would imagine.

    And that's assuming that he'd even be interested in getting into that fight.

    He has enough to worry about regarding his own tweeting habits with the SEC without wading into whether Trump should be allowed back



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Its only 9% initially.

    Musk tweeeted a poll last week asking "Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to the principle that Free Speech is essential to a functioning democracy"

    70.4% of respondents said No.

    Musk will have influence, this is a warning shot to management to make changes or else...



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,737 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I doubt Musk would care too much if Trump was allowed to come back or not. I'd say he's more likely trying to make sure he can reduce criticism of himself, Tesla, and just say whatever he wants. Musk is interested in his freedom of speech, not anyone else's.

    What benefit would there be to Twitter to warrant allowing Trump back? User numbers and shares dropped right after his ban, but have grown since. Twitter has continued to grow without Trump, and the vast majority of his followers are still on Twitter.

    Musk might argue for it, but even though he might be the largest shareholder, his shares still only amount to less than 10%.

    Trump is most likely going to be allowed back on Twitter if/when he fully announces he's running in 2024, because Twitter probably won't want to deal with the argument of providing an unfair advantage to one candidate over another. So they'll allow him back under stated conditions and under the agreement that they'll ban him if he breaks any of those conditions, but that's most likely Trump's way back onto Twitter, with or without Musk.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,360 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Are Twitter about to become big tech that conservatives are suddenly okay with? Survey says without a shred of self awareness they will be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,737 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Plus imagine the embarrassment of Trump having to be bailed out by an actual billionaire.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,716 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You won't get an answer. He'd rather try and copy my post over on the biden thread



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    What do you think Musk can do with 9% of the stock? He doesn’t get a board seat and hasn’t the votes to remove or change the board. Even if he did, why would he give Trump a pass? Has he ever said he would?


    You’re clutching at straws.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,539 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Seems that the two tech leads just resigned: https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-two-key-tech-execs-quit-truth-social-after-troubled-app-launch-2022-04-04/


    "Two key tech execs quit Truth Social after troubled app launch"


    FFS why won't links get expanded. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not

    Reading the article, two other execs were apparently contestants on The Apprentice and the whole show is run by ex-Cow Devin Nunes. No wonder it's a catastrophe.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    So , instead of hiring people with actual experience or ability , Trump does what he always does - he hires people who owe him one or who kiss up to him.

    "Former Apprentice Contestants" is all you need to know - Self-involved narcissists , obviously a great match for Trump but also like Trump likely to be pi$$poor at actually running a business.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Musk is correct, free Speech is essential to a functioning democracy. With a 3 billion dollar investment he must be planning on doing something about it. Because democrats are out of control when it comes to censorship and fake news. Any big decision within the company will now require a signature from Musk.. At least we know what side the good guys are on now👌🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think some will be confused if they think Musk is on the side of autocoup wannabe depots. Refer to the work Starlink is doing to undermine Trump's BFF, Vladimir "Genius" Putin. As for thinking Musk doesn't believe in speech restriction, refer to Tesla's union-busting and the string of Musk employment lawsuits. He's just as happy to 'champion free speech' as he is to say 'but.' Trump committed a serious autocoup attempt and used Twitter's platform to largely help carry it out. 9% of the company held by a day-trader no less, buys the rest of the company into forgetting that?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,360 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Have we really circled back to free speech again? This is phenomenal levels of misunderstanding, at this stage it can only be on purpose because nobody could still not understand.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You still haven't grasped the concept of the difference between freedom of speech, and terms and conditions have you?



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Remind me again which party is banning books and preventing the instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools? You and your buddies are all for censorship when it suits you and your opinions. Give over with the smug self-righteousness and hypocrisy, it's embarrassing.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


     Any big decision within the company will now require a signature from Musk

    No , it won't.

    He's not on the board and holds no office/position within Twitter so he has absolutely zero decision making influence whatsoever.

    No one from Twitter will be asking for Musks permission to do a thing.

    Also , For what seems like the thousandth time - There is no entitlement to Freedom of Speech from a Private Company.

    No ones "rights" are being infringed if they can't obey the Terms & Conditions of a Private company.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,312 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Also , For what seems like the thousandth time - There is no entitlement to Freedom of Speech from a Private Company.

    How stupid does one have to be to not get this?



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ochams razor shifts to identifying it as gaslighting.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ah now. Lads, be sensitive, there was a time when the leftist posters who support The Monarchy would have laughed at peasants who thought they could get representation, simply because they were taxed! That isn't how the law worked you silly fools, etc.

    Now, I don't have a problem with anyone arguing for why they think Twitter should be considered a government forum, that's an uphill battle for them, god speed, but trying to keep arguing that this vision you have of an America, where twitter is somehow already that, just isn't real.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Why is it that those that shout loudest about their "Constitutional Rights" seem to not have even the most rudimentary understanding of what rights the Constitution provides and to whom?



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Because of the demagogues they elect, usually. I've been doing an unscheduled, involuntary case study of my Congressman's social media almost daily for about the past 6 years and I have to say, some of the discussion he's allowed to propagate there have been pretty bad over the years, often it would be things like suggesting fetuses have personhood (not in US law) or suggesting that large portions of the 14th amendment, don't actually exist: that you can exclude the census to only be US persons, and just not count them for anything; also, noncitizens have no right to any of the protections of law, just all the punishments of law. etc.

    Speaking of Constitutional Rights, soon the Senate's "States Rights!" politicians will almost assuredly vote to kill a bill passed by the House that will pass off the ability to determine whether cannabis is illegal or not back to the states to decide for themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 83,206 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    .



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,716 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Jfc - when is she going to get kicked out of the party?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Didn’t she go on a fundraiser with Matt Gaetz?

    Zero morals.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,652 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Surely she can be sued for making statements like that?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,716 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I'd say the insanity defence would be readily available..



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Jewish space lasers, how hate speech is protected by freedom of speech amazes me



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,360 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Normal common decency should mean she would be very much on the outside politically, that’s in short measure with those who vote for her.



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