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Issue with neighbour

  • 04-04-2022 9:31pm
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    I think you might need to give more information on the type of noise or sound being made or else every guess and potential yet irrelevant solution under the sun may be offered.

    My neighbours yard adjoined my gable wall. I had no visibility into that section of yard where a racket for hours every evening used to drive me nuts. I eventually called into them and they explained it was a treadmill for dogs that they were training. I asked them could they move the treadmill over to the far end of their yard as placing it against my gable created a constant vibrating rat-tat-tat noise directly onto my wall that the treadmill was resting against. It reduced the sound by about 95% so made it bearable I'd never have guessed in a million years what the noise was nor realised dogs actually got trained this way if I hadn't called to the neighbour. The neighbour moved out shortly after as did the dogs and noise thankfully.


    TL: DR contact your neighbour and amicably explain the situation. There's a chance they will address it if you explain your concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Simi


    You'll need to be a bit more specific than that if you want a solution. Is it an impact noise, vibration, rumbling etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    Is it a coffee grinder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭HorseSea


    3d printer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Tanta51


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Is it a house, is it an apartment, do you know if they are renting or owners?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Simi


    Active Noise cancelling headphones for each of you and foam earplugs at night. Both are very effective. I have issues with screaming kids during the day and bangs and traffic noises in early morning.

    Make a plan and start saving what you can toward a new home. The market can't inflate forever and when it starts to return to sanity you'll be ready to go.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭uli84


    Oh and I thought my neighbour wind chimes were bad…I really feel for you as I hate even the wind chimes nuisance mentioned but all I can think of is try to talk to your neighbours, I know it’s sensitive but maybe they should seek some additional medical help for that person or something



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Wtf. Mentally unwell or not, that’s not acceptable. If the bowling goes on for days it also means that the person is clearly not getting the help they need. Call the police because you are “worried” about this person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    If they own the property and it's a home it's more difficult to do anything. Renting you can complain to their landlord. Apartment you can complain to management company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Presumably if they are renters they are less likely to stay a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Have the gards/community psychiatric nurse/gp/phn etc. visited the property for safeguarding and confirmed this is an actual mental health issue? Sounds like they need to visit again to re-evaluate whatever treatment the person is on.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    A little off-topic here but my query is also about noise-an unidentifiable one which goes on continuously in a building. Not loud, no variation in pitch or tone, but you are aware that there's something there! Not pleasant!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Is what the poster said not literally factual? I mean ive had crazy neighbours complain to the management company over raised voices. So you can certainly complain about noise to a management company. Then ive heard anecdotally of people complaining about party noise to a landlord of a property. So you can certainly complain to a landlord. So where is the rubbish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Oh absolutely nothing , but you can still complain to someone else hahah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Ya, maybe the ill person should be constantly sedated just to keep the neighbours happy….

    Does the ill person live alone OP?

    If not and if it’s annoying you OP, how do you think your other neighbours feel about it? I’m sure they’ve done everything they can to ease the situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    My friend used to listen to his radio in his apartment in the evenings. He received a complaint from the management company about noise disturbance. He was surprised and he didn’t think that it was loud at all. When he realised that it was disturbing other tenants, he switched the volume right down. Sometimes, people are just unaware



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭redlad12


    Freaks would go to the management company first in my opinion. Try at least once with the person actually making the noise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,412 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    So what? They clearly need to find the right treatment for said person. They can’t just expect neighbours to tolerate excessive noise when the sick person has an episode that lasts days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    Call an exorcist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Did I say they should be sedated? No, but you go right ahead and put words in my mouth. Because drugs for mental health either do nothing at all, or fully sedate in your world of absolutes eh Addle?

    Also there's no qualifications required to know from the description given that this person is not well, and if healthcare services haven't visited then they absolutely should.


    These are not a controversial points. Wellbeing of people should be checked.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭ahappychappy


    I would contact Garda in a welfare approach. They may be able to access support services. Having seen a close family member be tortured by mental health and not getting any support or access to limited services - it might actually help.

    To be honest it put my mind at ease that they had been checked in on. While I am aware there are some neurological conditions that can lead to insistent noise - then hopefully support can be given to them to soundproof their home as best as possible. What an awful existence for them poor soul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Multiquote, read the post above yours in my post, and relax.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Have you considered calling a priest :)

    Remember a few years ago I read a story in one of the UK papers.

    For over a year the neighbors had reported screaming and weird noises and nothing done about it. Then the noise stopped for a few weeks and started again. Still nothing done about it by the police.

    One day the police called to the person who reported its house and asked them if they ever got any strange smells.

    Turned out the owner of the house had been kidnapping people and torturing them and then murdering them and leaving the bodies in the attic.

    Thought that might lighten the mood :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    I lived in a really nice apartment complex for 7 years. It was a really well-located place. I was extremely happy to live there. Then, the pandemic started. New neighbours moved in. There was constant noise. Some asshole decided that they would do their gym session at 4am every morning. Multiple neighbours complained to the management company. The company lied to our neighbour and said that he was the only one to complain (I forwarded him the emails I sent to disprove their lies). One evening, it was so bad, a neighbour below us called to our apartment, asking if we were the people causing the noise. She had reached the end of her tether. We explained that it was the people above us. Yet, every time that these people were confronted, they brazenly denied it. I started to really hate our apartment. I would go into work sleep deprived. Generic “please be quiet” emails sent to all residents by the management company were utterly useless.

    In the end, it was the spur to us to leave the apartment and to move elsewhere. It was just awful!.

    It went from me living in my dream place to a nightmare place that I wanted to avoid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Haha yeah that's it. Thankfully though, I can still fully read a post before squeaking "WTF is wrong with you question mark, and extra question mark".

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    unfortunately ireland currently doesnt have the services to deal with such situations appropriately, i know a chap with schizophrenia that screams the house down on and off throughout the day, hes largely left alone, i use to pass him walking the country roads a lot on his own, this is truly where we re at in regards mental health issues, services have effectively collapsed during covid....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    jesus, its not as if you havent been trying everything, these are incredible difficult living conditions for all, im completely lost for solutions, only you have my sympathies, hopefully boards can come up with some sort of solutions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    this is actually really sad for all concerned, Imagine how the persons family are coping living in the same house as their ill child, i would tread very carefully before confronting the neighbours. Op could you rent your house and move somewhere else ? I can't see another way around it for you. Good luck anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    look to get a sound engineer’s report on the level of noise disturbance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    how long has this been going on for?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭ahappychappy


    Unfortunately I dont see how their family can help. They cant section them that requires medical staff and I assume if they are released from hospital they dont make the necessary criteria. What a joke of mental health services that someone is obviously very distressed and needs professional help is let go home and torture themselves and others.

    In your position I would on balance look to move - I know you should not have to but I dont see how anyone will be able to solve this issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    What would the point of a sound engineers report be? It would not help the situation whatsoever. The noise is only a side issue here. The main issue is the neighbour with what would appear to be a severe mental health problem and both they and their partner are refusing to engage with mental health services properly. It seems that help has been offered but it has not been taken up.

    I was thinking could the gardai & a doctor recommend an involuntary admission under the mental health act, but that could only be done where the person is an immediate danger to themselves or someone else - that does not seem to be the case here so that is not going to be an option.

    Could you get on to your local Community Healthcare Officer to seek advice and to see if a welfare check of the house could be arranged? They often deal with cases with elderly people who are suffering neglect or abuse and need an outside intervention.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    OPs issue is not the mental health, it's the noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    And the source of the noise is a mental health issue.

    A sound engineers report will not help the situation beyond confirming that there is noise.

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    sound engineer is a waste of time it's not going to fix any issues, op if you cant sell the only other option i think is make the room as far away from the detached house your new living room, or even build an extension or a small log cabin in the back garden fully detached, till the neighbour either moves or dies. It's a shocking indictment on the health services in ireland but i know how bad they are and its never in the news, but if there's a trans story or a race story its all over the papers. Much more in vogue problems in todays ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    what if the op is already up to their eyeballs in debt and barely getting things over the line as is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Sounds horrendous. Maybe moving is the best option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    nothing else you can do then that i can think of anyway, nightmare of a situation for all concerned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭CreadanLady


    Is it possible that the hospital the person is being taken to is a A&E or acute type of facility where they just do enough to settle them there and then and don't actually refer them on for proper longer term care. In my experience A&E is just that, they patch you up in a time of crisis and once you are not about to croak it there and then they are not too bothered and send you away again and you are on your own.

    I think you should get on to your CHO and hound them until they come out and do a welfare check on the neighbour. This is their job. They do welfare checks on elderly and vulnerable in the community. It certainly sounds like this neighbour is vulnerable as their partner clearly isn't get pro-active and seems to be against them getting proper care. That sort of willful neglect could be seen as abuse. Or they may be so stressed and overwhelmed themselves that they can't see how serious things are with the mentally ill partner.

    I think the CHO for a welfare check is the way to go.

    Sound engineers! Enough with that nonsense. What next? Calling an architect to fix a broken ankle?

    The MFV Creadan Lady is a mussel dredger from Dunmore East.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Tanta51


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    Scream back?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    Of course you can talk to them. Go over and ask wtf is going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    You know nothing about their situation, as you admittedly haven't talked to them. How can you say the family are doing nothing to deal with this? As bad as it is for you next door, the family (and the person themselves) have to face this inescapable situation day in day out, which is bad enough without you calling the Gardaí on them having never talked to them to know if it's warranted or not.

    Have a chat, emphathise, explain that you can hear it without asking that they stop it as it's likely not possible. There may be something they can do, maybe close the windows while it's happening, swap rooms, maybe add soundproofing at an extreme (there may be grants available) but don't expect them to immediately act. In all likelyhood if there was something they could do they would already be doing it.

    It's likely this situation won't go away completely and you can't force them to do anything so unfortunately you have to consider your options from that perspective. Reconsider the soundproofing on your side for instance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    Is there some kind of government agency that’s responsible for people with disabilities, similar to what Tusla does for children? This person is obviously not getting adequate care. They need to be in an environment where their needs are met. You could try speaking to citizens information to find out what services there are?



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