Too many people would have to keep it a secret...

Not insulting at all. Just saying that if you can't see that those two men are one in the same then there is no point taking the discussion any further. The sources I pulled the image from say it was first posted in 2016 but could have been taken a few years before that. I think it's irrelevant when the picture was taken - Either the guy from the university of wisconsin has committed some kind of identity fraud where he altered the image to look like an older version of the once astronaut who died in the Challenger disaster of 1986 or they are simply the same man.

What content and context are you looking for? Companies come across insurmountable issues with their products all the time - this is why the design process is iterative, no company comes up with the perfect device/medication from day 1. If you think this is the case then you clearly haven't worked for one. And this is just counting the more honest companies.

Other companies are very dishonest about the data they use. They come up with spurious reasons to nullify valid outliers in data. Anyone who understands statistics knows that you can exaggerate, dampen, hide and conclude anything you want. NPHET was a perfect example of this at the start of the pandemic releasing their daily median figure as if it was some kind of golden metric. 🙄

I've been part of so many acquisitions of companies where they were completely dishonest about their development data. The worst ones are when they dont take random test batches but cherry-pick the best samples for testing. What hope do the FDA have when this data is used in the publications?

And this doesn't even touch on the dishonesty of physicians who get big fat pay cheques from the companies. You are very naive if you think the FDA or other regulatory bodies are some kind of fail-safe mechanism in the industry.

Why are you being cryptic with your language? I read a summary of what the book is about:

In 1954, Darrell Huff decided enough was enough. Fed up with politicians, advertisers and journalists using statistics to sensationalise, inflate, confuse, oversimplify and - on occasion - downright lie, he decided to shed light on their ill-informed and sneaky ways - Amazon

Are you saying that this is just satire and that politicians, advertisers journalists are perfectly honest about how they use statistics? Or are you saying the author is just a crank and a conspiracy theorist?

It's a simple question do you agree or disagree that statistics are used, at the very least, to bend the truth?

You think that because I haven't read a 100 page book by an american journalist that I don't know how statistics work? Please.

You are trying to talk your way out of a hole...

You said it right here. And when I highlighted the fact that this relies on companies being honest with the data they acquire and how they present it, you went on a tangent about a novelty statistics book. Not sure why you are talking as though you've demystified any chance of wrong-doing in the industry. Just because you say you worked in an FDA controlled research team doesn't give what you say more weight than everyone else.

This has to be one of the most bizarre threads on boards. It proposes that a gargantuan secret can exist without requiring "thousands of people" to keep a secret. And yet the sceptics of the forum feel that this is not possible!

Yet another clear example in the media in the last two weeks with the RTE fiasco. Scandal after deception after lie after fraud coming out of the organisation. An organisation of Journalists!!!

So my question, how did all these hundreds of journalists manage to keep this secret for so many years?

😂

Why do you think it will always come out in the wash? Almost sounds biblical: "God will reveal all"

And also, I would like you to please clarify why one of the 100+ journalists did not blow the whistle from 2019-2022 where the scandal was successfully maintained?