"Green" policies are destroying this country

But they're not making poor financial decisions. They're making lots of money because they can sell what they do generate at the price of the most expensive/ most taxed fossil fuel energy generation under the EU marginal price policy . And they produce enough to make a very tidy profit for their shareholders. What more do they need?

We're diving deep into the climate change denial talking points here 'Changed from global warming' Yeah, which is why the IPCC's name was secretly changed from IPGW

They are not ignoring this at all. No matter how often you ignore the posts that talk about the different ways we can balance the grid

In a few years time, all of our frequency regulation will be done by batteries, Gas won't be needed for that at all.

The fossil fuel industry are running out of arguments against renewables, now that battery storage is competitive. the only thing they have left is long term reserves for those rare times when the wind isn't blowing across the entire continent and offshore territories, and green hydrogen is likely to be the sustainable solution to allow strategic reserves for this scenario.

Wrong. You've got the ears by the donkey there.

At this moment in time ie Now - we simply don't have enough electricity generated by Solar or Wind on a regular basis for either method of generation to set the wholesale price of electricity. Which means the price right across the EU is currently determined by expensive fossil fuels simply because renewables remain an unreliable means of energy generation. As it stands fossil fuel energy generation is heavily taxed and penalised under the ETS system. Costs which are not applied to renewables, which are deemed to have zero costs as per EU energy policy. So regardless of whether 1% or 99.9% of our electricity is produced by renewables - our electricity costs are currently determined by the proportion which is generated by fossil fuels. We are effectively screwing ourselves and creating profits for energy generation companies.

It remains we need natural gas facilities to provide a safe, secure and reliable source of fuel for energy generation during the period of transition to renewables.

Marginal pricing

Today, the bloc's wholesale electricity market works on the basis of marginal pricing, also known as "pay-as-clear market". Under this system, all electricity producers – from fossils fuels to wind and solar – bid into the market and offer energy according to their production costs. The bidding starts from the cheapest resources – the renewables – and finish with the most expensive one – usually natural gas...

This "coupling" of electricity and gas prices has been criticised by several member states, chief among them France and Spain, who argue the final bill doesn't reflect the benefits of the green transition.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2021/10/28/why-europe-s-energy-prices-are-soaring-and-could-get-much-worse

I did indeed read the article and I pointed out what you were attempting to skip over. It was decommissioned and scraped 6 years ago.

Your attempts at promoting tidal is nothing other than your scrambling to justify the proposed banning of LNG by the greens and your support for them to collapse the government if they do not get their way by coming up with an alternative source. It`s so transparent it`s laughable.

Nobody is saying we should plug up the Moffatt pipeline while we still need it. I am saying that we should speed up the infrastructure changes we need so we no longer need that gas. as we bring these on stream, our requirements will decline year on year.

Building a LNG gas terminal or exploring for new gas offshore, won't solve any of those problems. We'll still need to transition away from gas.

I suppose it wouldn’t matter if it was oil as we can refine that oil reserve in whitegate.

However I wonder how many barrels of diesel do you get out of a barrel of oil?

Actually just googled it and found:

19 gallons of gasoline and 10 gallons of diesel fuel are produced from a barrel of crude oil by U.S. refiners.

No I absolutely get that, and I am in agreement however I am struggling with the idea that we can depend on the Moffat line post 2025 when we will still require gas to keep the lights on.

Honestly I just don’t believe the UK would go without gas to allow gas come to us via Moffat if they are also in need of gas.

I know this sounds far fetched but if the wind is low in Ireland during the winter, the same applies in the UK, which means gas demand goes through the roof.

I don't see it as a political battle at all. Its a case that there has never been more incentives for energy companies to invest in renewables and year on year the investment in renewables continues to increase .

The problem arises that we are still dependent on fossil fuels and in our case natural gas for the period of transition to renewable energy production and until viable storage or other means of backup becomes a reality.

You need a storage backup capable of 2 to 3 weeks supply, doubtful this can be supplied in that quantity, Unless you can come up with some sort of giant fidget spinner or electro- magnet ballast weight to keep wind turbines turning when there's no wind.

Government could go along way by insisting all companies in receipt of state grants have a third of their roofs covered in Solar panels even if they have to grant aid them

Your post is all about thee hypothetical while ignoring the reality. Can you point to a single billing period in the last year where your electricity bill was lower due to wind.

Marginal pricing means that the wholesale price of electricity is determined by the price of the fossil fuel in the mix. Whether that is 10% or 50% it makes no difference. Fossil fuel plants are not turned off either, due to the possible drop in wind or solar.

I have absolutely no problem with reliable dependable renewables providing 100% clean energy to meet our needs, but just lumping up more wind turbines is not going to make the wind blow. When there is little or no wind, similar to this winter here and all over Europe for long stretches where the energy being supplied by wind was so low if we had increased our number of wind turbines by 1,000% it would still have been touch and go depending on wind.

Right now we need fossil fuels. There is no getting around that. Far as I am concerned at present we should be more concerned with some of the insanity from the Green Party on how and where we will do that, rather than worrying about a hypothetical future.