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Can a Doctor Refuse to See Unvaccinated Patients (non covid related)?

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    People are finding it difficult to believe simply because the snippets of information you provide do not make sense.

    The gastro specialist is abroad but you won't say where. They are highly respected but you won't name them. The only thing I can assume therefore is that whilst they are practising abroad, they are not registered here, possibly not practising medicine that would even be approved here.

    Based on what you have told us, if I was her GP and knew that she was following the advice from random foreign doctors, I'd be quick to tell her where to go. I'd be conscious that a) I wouldn't trust her to follow any recommendations I provide and b) if something went wrong when following her foreign doctor's advice, as her GP I somehow could end up in trouble with the medical council which i obviously wouldn't want.

    Anyhow even to believe you that there is an area of approx 4,000 squared miles where there is only one GP is, to me, pushing it? I know that there is a shortage of GPs but you have to be making stuff up now! 36miles is 57km. Taking hills, bends and river crossings into account and the curvature of the earth and being quite generous, let's assume a 30km radius from home (randomly picking Athlone on the map here), you expect us to believe that there is just the one GP in the red circle (bearing in mind that this is almost half of the radius you're claiming)?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I think we all guessed that last bit to be fair

    You've got the answer loads of times. The doctor can refuse to see a patient.

    You can tell your friend this and they can make their own mind up as to what to do next. Arguing it on their behalf here with stories of world class specialists won’t change a thing.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Hang on, earlier you claimed that the GP wasn't up to speed on vaccines with her condition (which is why she consulted with her foreign doctor) and now you're saying that the GP is well informed on vaccines and her condition?

    Am I missing something here?



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    Snippets of information ... I've responded to EVERY single question I have been asked. What do you want me to do write a thesis? And on the "believe" part - why on earth would I be lying!? You're actually a really, really irritating person, I'm sure I am not the first person to say that to you.

    I've explained why I am not mentioning names here and if you can't understand that, well you're ... I'll just leave it at that. BUT the gastroenterologist is a specialist in his field, board certified and has NO affiliation to Ireland.

    Quit daydreaming pal, you're not a GP. You're a boards.ie moderator.

    Nice map. To answer your question I'm not making stuff up - you need to take availability into consideration. So no, unfortunately she has no other options closer by.

    If you have any more questions. I will gladly answer to give others a clearer picture, but if you're going to question my integrity or make assumptions - just jog on and find something more productive to with your time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    Yeah... you're missing the part where I supposedly said her GP was well informed on vaccines!

    Are you on meds or something?



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Quit daydreaming pal, you're not a GP. You're a boards.ie moderator.

    Can I not be both?



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    You guessed I was out of the country or unvaccinated? If it was the latter I would be very impressed, considering vax/antivax debate in Ireland pre covid was never a thing. I never ever had a conversation or debate on vaccines until a year and a half ago.

    There actually hasn't been one bit of evidence presented that her doctor can do this. Unless I missed it buried in the s**t show this has turned into?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,476 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    so to clarify, the gastroenterologist didn't say the child should not receive the vaccine, your friend decided that themselves? and they decided it based on a condition the kid may not even have?



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn




  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    I already mentioned this but to reiterate:

    1. Doctor informed my friend her babies vaccines were due.
    2. My friend asked questions her doctor couldn't answer, so she informed him she would speak with her gastroenterologist about it.
    3. My friend then informed her doctor her child will not be getting the 6in1 vaccine and she will assess the others in due course.
    4. Her doctor then told her if the child is not going to be vaccinated he will not be able to accommodate them at his practice as he only takes care of vaccinated people.

    and to clarify no he never said the child should or should not get the vaccine.

    The gastroenterologist has been treating my friend for an autoimmune illness. There's auto immune issues in her family and I believe something related to the gut, or microbiome diversity or something like that. Her own issues were triggered within days of receiving a tetanus shot so of course she is more alert now to potential effects . My friend has been healing wonderfully the past 2 years without medication under the care of her gastroenterologist after her own doctor was putting her on medication for life. Given her experience she had many questions for her doctor about the 6in1 vaccine for her child. When her doctor couldn't answer them she spoke to gastroenterologist who informed her that it is a potential risk to vaccinate her child given her history. Her gastro spent a long time with her, weighing up all the pros and cons (vax and unvax) including what was in the 6in1 vaccine and the chances of catching any of the disease it protects against, the treatment if she was unvaxed and caught it, etc. The gastroenterologist then left the ball in her court to disuses with her doctor.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,297 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    What evidence are you looking for? He did it, and you can’t find anything anywhere to say that’s wrong. So that’s the end of the story really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    Im sorry I simply don’t accept that if that clinic closed that your friend and family would have to travel 40 miles to the next nearest clinic. That’s not true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    This may not be hard to believe. A lot of small rural practices are consolidating in towns. The nearest town may not be accepting patients so some are having to travel to find a practice will to allow them to register.

    As others have pointed out, the new info offered by the op does indicate a difference of opinion between the GP and whomever the op’s friend is “attending” overseas. I’d have to say, a GP is more likely to be informed about vaccines than a gastroenterologist. Both of course should be knowledgable, but a GP deals with vaccines on a daily basis and is used to offering opinions to patients with a wide variety of illnesses, specialists on the other hand tend to focus on their area of speciality. In this case, the op seems to have been swayed by the opinion of a practitioner in another jurisdiction so I can now understand why the GP, probably exasperated, has decided that his/her opinion no longer matters to the op. When that happens, best for all concerned to move on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    Ok I'm done here. I can't be dealing with you people.

    I don't know what crazy upside down world we live in right now. But if a person comes on a forum, looking for advice on a situation, I think it should be a given that what the person says is the truth. I'm not trying to win an argument, nor slander or defame somebody. I, the original poster, am here just looking for information, anonymously and so it would not be in my interest to embellish the truth in any way shape or form. And I find it truly bizarre that others would jump to that conclusion.

    I don't understand the desire to call people liars and attack, I've certainly never met people like you in real life. I came here in good faith, anonymously because my friend doesn't want people knowing her business. You people are toxic, and I hope you seriously re-evaluate your lives and I'm not being dramatic.

    adieu.

    @mods feel free to close this down.



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sounds like big gaps in the account. Cannot see a doc declining to see family because a child wont have a vaccine.

    Suspect a lot being left out.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I don't understand the desire to call people liars and attack, I've certainly never met people like you in real life. I came here in good faith, anonymously because my friend doesn't want people knowing her business. You people are toxic, and I hope you seriously re-evaluate your lives and I'm not being dramatic.

    ...says the person that was trolling a year old thread of mine earlier today. Bye!



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 androlyn


    i wasn't "trolling", I was proving a point, by copying and pasting YOUR EXACT WORDS to demonstrate how UNHELPFUL they were.



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