Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

In fairness, there are some people who are not in a position to help - house already full, in low pay jobs etc.

However there are loads of people where kids have grown up and left the nest, people with holiday homes etc. who can absorb some extra cost to help others.

So what if houses aren't on a bus route. There is a huge level of support from the community to give lifts etc. Maybe not ideal but it's a long way from sheltering in an underground railway station with hundreds of others.

Language could be an issue, but many (most?) Ukrainians have learnt basic English at school and in a short time will be communicating reasonably well.

These are ordinary women and children seeking safety from a war.

Wrong. It's less than 30% actually. A lot less than the number of refugees from the east.

Wrong.

Most Ukrainians love their country, for all it's faults. Yet you seem to think you can predict the mindset of millions of refugees. Most will want to return to their homeland as soon as. The ignorance of people like you only serves to strengthen their desire of that. Some are not even waiting for the war to end.

Wrong.

Every country is doing its bit, so distance doesn't come into the equation. Help is already being provided closer and in a quicker manner, and I'm sure if Poland could take more then they would.

Refugees are grateful for anywhere on the planet to take them in to alleviate their suffering, so who are you to question how far refugees should travel.

I could pick your post apart to a much greater degree and really embarrass you but I've got far better things to do with my day.

By the way, don't bother replying as I find your posts smug and conceited in the extreme, and I've no wish to further interact with someone who labours under the pretence that they are some knowledgeable academic type when in reality they cant even quantify the tripe that they post.

You make it sound so easy :) Now time to get back to the real world. Tell us about the effort and costs involved to get an outdated parents house cleared and ready for rental. And then when they have spent all the money and effort is the government going to pull the plug or change the rules every 5 minutes, just to fcuk the owners over, like they currently are with rentals.

There is no plan here. They are just talking the usual non thought through bollox they usually do.

Its all well and good welcoming strangers into your home for a few weeks/months but lets face it these people could still need to be housed in Ireland 2 years from now. House sharing is stressful at the best of times - but sharing your house with possibly kids, pets, deal with language barriers having to possibly ferry people around, cook, clean etc will wear very thin. There appears to be no vetting done on either the people seeking refuge or the hosts which is a recipe for disaster. The support in the community will dwindle very quickly.

At the moment there are no supports available to host families. I also read that ukranians are not obliged to give their hosts anything out of their social welfare payment. The government as per usual have put the cart before the horse here and its going to be a shambles for all involved.

I know these poor people need our help but opening up our homes is not the answer. I would happily donate or volunteer but not give a room in my home.

I read a post earlier that got me thinking.

Ever had that relative who you like and love spending time with who came to stay fopr a few weeks and by the time they left you were so glad to get rid of them. Imagine that but with someone you dont even know.

People are happy to have visitors in their space, but it doesnt take very long to want your space back. Weeks probably.

Every bit of the post is valid

It really isn't.

But to try and answer your question.

How do you think families affected by Mica feel?

I know families affected by Mica, and I know how they feel about watching the after images of children being gang raped and executed in front of their mothers and vice versa.

They are absolutely horrified and in no way would they in a trillion years try to equate the unprecedented challenge to give people safety with them being unlucky to have had homes built with sub standard materials.

Primarily because they are not dangerously stupid cretins.

Well I will bite and answer you . I will put this very simply , I have a house i inherited as my parent died . I could put it on the market now but decided to delay that when I saw the absolute horror of what the women and children have experienced . I have daughters and grandchildren and I would wish if they needed help that someone would help them if they were fleeing war . I have no wish whatsoever to rent it to anyone homeless or not but am happy to give a house to a family fleeing from the awful horror of being displaced and traumatised ., That is my choice to make and I dont have to justify that choice to anyone nor does anyone else have to justify their choices really

What about building them sites like the travelling community use. Or using mobile homes as a cheaper alternative. There's only so much the tax can be squeezed before it becomes unfair.