"Green" policies are destroying this country

I know the Aran Islands very well with my wife being born and raise there and for her job visiting all three on a very regular basis. She also has extended family living on all three and we both have friends native to all three.

Mecanudo is spot on as regards Dara O Maoildhia who has, shall we say being kind, a foot in both camps in this area and their is not universal celebration over many of those that have availed of these upgrades on the islands. The islands are tourist cash cows, with the emphasis here on cash. Many have been questioning the money provided by the state that due where to their taxable incomes they would not qualify for the same level of aid. I`m sure you can work out for yourself just why that is from what I have said.

There is a quote often attributed to Mark Twain that sums up that link; "If you don`t read the newspaper, You are uninformed. If you do, you are misinformed."

Any of the GP fans have any thoughts on this?

Don't worry, Ryan has it sorted, he's suggested people take shorter showers and drive less. Glad we have such a deep, critical thinker in government looking out for our financial wellbeing.

Its not. Quoting a career politician mouthing off and looking at the next career opportunity is certainly not helpful eitherway

I could trawl the entire thread but the details got posted to you a number of times that the Kerry LNG would increase electricity costs*

You better do that then*. Because I previously asked for a source of that claim and nothing was forthcoming.

How about we let the Kerry / Shannon LNG terminal go ahead and as paid for by the developers of the project. That's no skin off your or any greens nose. And we know we need a safe, secure and reliable source of natural gas up to 2050 and potentially beyond.

Europe has just banned all coal, gas and oil supllies from Russia from the beginning of next month.

Following Brexit and the invasion of Ukraine, natural gas supplies to us from the UK, are now even less secure than when the Regulator here highlighting that as a significant issue.

In the face of Europe wide increased competition for natural gas and electricity

• The natural gas connection from the UK is no longer secure

• Ditto the electric connection from the UK

• Ditto the planned connection from France with France now importing electricity from its EU neighbours

Why? Because all European countries are now in a scramble for a range of increasingly scarce non renewable fuel sources

Quick tip. Previous "answers" mean didly squat in the face of those facts

Btw I too was involved in that particular discussion. And as the developers of the Kerry / Shannon LNG terminal stated in May last year the facility would be ready by Mid 2022 pursuant to planning permission. Obviously that didn't happen due to various green objectors. That's the lead time. It's not a complicated build. Much of the necessary infrastructure consists of prefabricated tanks and pipes. And yet hazel are still whistling dixie over something you evidently know nowt about.

And its not "if" the wind stops. It's when. And we know that is a not uncommon occurance. Or have you forgotten the difference between our needs NOW and some imagined FAR away time when all is rosy and Renewables provide 100% generation capacity

So again - a question you have failed to answer many many times

do you believe the EU policy on the use of safe, secure and reliable source fossil fuels (during the period of transition to renewable energy generation which includes imported LNG and the use of European natural gas) is wrong?

He was speaking as the secretary general of the UN. He's not some yokel trying to appeal to voters

Anyway. You have proven that no warning will ever be clear enough that you'd actually listen

Posting ridiculous videos from climate change denial youtube channels over a decade old in response to the latest damning report on the urgency of action on climate change.

You have shown that you're not about reason or evidence. There is no evidence that would ever change your mind

A LNG terminal is not just prefabricated tanks and pipes. If they said it would take a year to build they are lying

The greens have consistently been shown to have engaged in deliberate disinformation whether that is about LNG, our reserves of natural gas or the reliability of renewable energy generation.

It is therefore truely ironic that you would chose to accuse an independent company of "lying" lol.

Fyi I never claimed the facility was "just prefabricated pipes and tanks"

Anyway here is a digital representation of the facility. Obviously Hoover Dam level of complexity 🙄

To persuade others of such beliefs regarding LNG etc will take more than misquoting. No one is fooled eitherway

Why do you keep banging on about Kerry ?

The application to build a LNG terminal in Kerry is by a private company, that I doubt are doing so because they agree with your assertion, (which incidentally you have failed to back up), that there is a cheaper secure energy source that satisfied that description based on what our own state regulator had to say on the subject, or would also comply with the E.U. on the same. When it comes to economics, I would be inclined to go with hard nosed private companies than the baseless assertions from random self styled internet experts when it comes to financial viability.

I have pointed out to you that the French inter-connector is 5 years away, and indications that there will be little or nothing flowing through it even then if the present is anything to go by, and the German Government are building two LNG terminals they say will be operational in 2 years and that will include them being green hydrogen ready as well.

What is it you find so difficult to understand? We need a secure source of gas because wind,and solar are so unreliable. Wind turbines or solar panels are not going to achieve that in the immediate future, and it is highly debatable that they ever will provide a 100% reliable energy supply. So with you backing the Irish Green party`s position on LNG, a position that is completely out of step with the E.U., what credible alternative to LNG have you that you have so far failed to provide ?

On us needing foreign gas you have not missed anything.

The question is with the Green party determined to block all LNG where are we going to get this secure source of gas ?

Nope. Not my "think". So perhaps its you who is "delusional"?

Thats what the company detailed. If Germany can do Hydrogen ready LNG terminals in approx two years then no reason why we canot do a straightforward LNG terminal is around half that especially where a large proportion of its construction is prefabricated. You'd swear to dodge they were building the Taj Mahal - the way some are going on here 🙄

Hydrogen ready LNG is basically an Ammonia terminal. Ammonia doesn't need to be chilled and all of the infrastructure insulated to maintain a constant temperature of about minus 170c