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  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    Anyone with an ounce of common sense would see past the veil of propaganda and just see it for what it is. Illegal dumping. I wonder how many of them attend climate action demos.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,006 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It was a cluster bomb that hit the train station, a train station which has seen 1000's of Ukrainians flee to the West on the back of officials telling them to evacuate last Sunday.

    The scum want to keep the civilians there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭liamtech


    A video analyzing the nature of what Military assistance will be given to Ukraine

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    You do realise that the Russian Embassy is actually in more affluent West London? Located nearby to local Russian oligarch owned properties & a football club with a prominent fascist following.

    I doubt if the citizens of North London would travel all the way to Kensington with current parking restrictions & congestion central zone charges to dump some rubbish when local councils provide a collection service.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,908 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The term is about as legit as trump derangement syndrome which no doubt came from the same sources...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    For those of us going on about a weak Germany,I reckon it could get worse if le pen gets into power in France ( which is beginning to look like a distinct possibility). That would lead to serious upheaval in the EU and Putin and his army could run rough shod over wherever they want. Some markets are already showing signs of nervousness. Long term, it could be a case of every country for itself....

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,908 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    There's no hope of LePen getting into power on France. Her connections to all of this far right nonsense is there for all to see. Including her praise for Putin on many occasions. No one's washing that off.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,908 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Once again. That's not happening. Where are ye lads getting this stuff from. Joe.ie equivalent..



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I wouldn't be so sure. She is almost certainly going to go into the run-off with Macron and she's only polling 1% behind him in that vote.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Agree with this. It always looks closer in the polling that it actually is on election day.

    A pragmatic vote should win out in France, especially in the current environment. The last thing we all want is political instability.

    If I was voting right now, it pains me to say it but it would probably be a FG vote. *Shudders*



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    She tends to always underperform her polling. But it is definitely a possibility that she wins, if a small one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I'll eat a boiled shoe if Le Pen even gets within 10-15 percent of Macron in the final run-off.

    This is how French Presedential elections work. Some head the ball does a bit of front-running in the first round, makes some noise and may squeek into final run-off, and then other candidates' voters break hard for the less insane candidate.

    He wholloped her by 30 points in 2017 and things haven't significantly changed in France. He's not particularly popular, but the French public won't let someone that far right anywear near the Élysée.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    How many ate boiled shoe after Brexit or Trump got in ? That's the world we are living in at the moment where crazy things happen. I wont pretend to understand French politics, but I do understand that nothing is certain when it comes to a public vote.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The biggest move for Germany was to lift that ban of weaponry they had sold being sent on to third parties. That was a 50 year old policy. The new budget follows on from that position change.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    You can bookmark it. Le Pen is not getting anywhere near the Élysée. Getting withing 20 percentage points of Macron in the run-off would be a very good day at the polls for her.

    I'm willing to take the opprobrium and mockery if I'm wrong, but I won't be losing any sleep about being wrong about this one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick



    Well I'm including the West London luvvies as well. In fact all the posh nob areas of London, but I didn't want to type out every single one, clever dick.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    France is toying with canning internal flights (except to places like Corsica obviously). They have a rather glorious train infrastructure set up to fall back on though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭thomil


    That's what you get when you have a greedy geriatric smurf as a chancellor and Dolores Umbridge as minister for defense! Seriously, Christine Lambrecht is turning out to be the worst minister of defense in a long while in Germany, which is quite an achievement when the competition includes Ursula von der Leyen. From what I'm getting from German news reports, it appears as if she is extremely territorial, vindictive and stubborn and does not want any scrutiny of her ministry. There are indications that she is holding back deliveries simply as payback for criticism.

    Having said that, even with that recalcitrant gremlin, there's quite a bit that Germany is doing nonetheless, beyond the thorny issue of sanctions, both with logistics and with direct military deployments.

    • The German Navy's "Fleet Service Vessel" Alster has been deployed to the Baltic west of Kaliningrad. Fleet Service Vessel is a euphemism for electronic intelligence gathering ship. Here's her sister ship FGS Oker in Cork back in 2017: Who watches the watchers? - German intelligence gathering vessel visits Cork (thomil-english.blogspot.com)
    • Alster is being escorted by the guided missile corvette FGS Erfurt.
    • I presume FGS Alster is the source for the German intelligence intercepts that have recently made headlines.
    • German Navy P-3 Orion sub-hunters regularly search the waters off Kaliningrad.
    • 15.000 Soldiers are being stood up for NATO's new Response Force. The German component on that force is operating on a war footing already.
    • German Air Force Eurofighter deployments to the Baltic states & Romania.
    • Military traffic is being given priority on all German motorways, railways at airports and ports. This means prioritizing trains with military equipment, blocking off lanes on motorways especially for convoys, etc. This priority is also being given to transit traffic from other countries.
    • Previously documented weapons systems deliveries:
      • 500 x FIM 92 Stinger (MANPADS)
      • 2000 x Panzerfaust 3 (Anti Tank Weapon)
      • 2000 x 9K32 Strela (MANPADS, these 2000 have been tested by now and are working & safe to use)
      • 1000 Anti Tank mines
      • 100 MG-3 machine guns
      • 13 million rounds of ammunition, multiple calibers
      • Patriot SAM batteries deployed to Slovakia, freeing their S-300 system to be deployed to Ukraine. Deployment confirmed by Slovak PM via Social Media this morning
      • 1 x Field hospital
      • Financing & Delivery assistance for 5100 Matador RGW-90 anti tank weapons ("Panzerknacker")
      • 14 Armoured Vehicles (unspecified type, source Süddeutsche Zeitung)
      • Source: German news channel n-tv Nachrichten

    Now, I'm German myself and I'm personally disgusted at the way leading politicians such as president Steinmeier, chancellor Scholz or ministers Lambrecht & Lindner are acting. However, given how run-down Germany's military still is in many parts, there's not really that much to give, especially now that Germany has stood up it's component to the NATO Response Force. Having said that, Scholz really needs to swallow his pride, cut the gas deliveries, and become much more proactive in addressing the needs of Ukraine.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,884 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Stopping the oil and gas trade with Russia immediately across the EU won't stop the war straight away either I think.

    It won't make Russia's armies and their stockpile of Soviet weapons disappear in a puff of smoke when the European energy money stops. Unfortunately I think the peace talks are not serious on Russia's part. IMO, only

    1. Ukraine making it too costly to carry on the attack (by wrecking so much of Russia's military + killing such a large number of Russian soldiers they start to cause more home pressures for Putin [cannot hide the scale of defeat inflicted] & even destabilise security of Russia itself) or
    2. Putin finally deciding he's won enough in the East to halt & declare a sort of success and celebrate his good work with the Russian population or
    3. Some kind of NATO peacekeeping intervention if pressure to do "something" to try and limit scale of the war grows too high

    will end it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    If this is true, they're getting closer to Kherson. If they do manage to retake the city (the largest city the Russians have managed to take so far) I don't think they'll be getting across the Dnipro.




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stopping the oil and gas trade with Russia immediately across the EU won't stop the war straight away either I think.


    In terms of its effects, it's more of a future strategy and will probably ensure that Russia becomes a sort of backwater. As we move more strongly away from fossils anyway the scope for income on that front will become a lot more limited.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,884 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Yes, would agree with you. Made the post after reading some earlier I think which were suggesting this happening might end the war quickly (usual stuff blaming Germany for everything).

    Sorry, I carried on working on that post after I hit "Post Comment" (a bad habit) and edited it a good bit after you quoted me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    The sanctions are unprecedented, now WW2 nor Cold War, nothing like this has been done before.

    The only problem can be if we over egg the sanctions, cripple Euro manufacturing, shift more manufacturing to China and throw EU into a deep recession.

    None of those things help Ukraine



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭zv2


    Of course they're not. It is all a deep fake and Putin is in the Bahamas playing Ludo with Lukashenko.

    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Another russian war crime and another press conference to condemn it …..



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭threeball


    It's all a load of shíte. Condemn it. What does that even mean. Do they really think Putin cares or is it actually their way of doing something while doing nothing.

    The sad thing about this is that Putin has been proven right, the west is weak. It has no stomach and he'll do as he pleases. And he will continue to do as he pleases as no amount of raped toddlers, civilians butchered or humanitarian corridors bombed is enough to get anyone with the power to push back to even lift a finger.

    We've become completely morally bankrupt, we stand for nothing only our own comfort and self preservation. And when he eventually points his weapons at the west we'll deserve everything we get for leaving these people to fend for themselves whilst we spectate.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    One russian Rocket cost millions, Killing fleeing children in a bombing in a railway station in order to blame your enemy is worth millions in propaganda, to write 'for the children' on a clearly Russian bomb not knowing it would survive the blast priceless

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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