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Connacht vs. Leinster, leg the first (Sportsground, Friday 8th April 8pm, BT Sport One)

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Hands like tits are what is stopping Doris being an absolute great.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That will come with time, he missed a lot of his early rugby and I don't quite think he's calibrated his ball control for the types of impacts his speed and power into contact demands. That's an easy fix - I'm just happy we have another line breaker with such good rugby IQ since Heaslip retired.



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭tvpc


    Carty was great what a pass for the first try. Sexton couldnt handle the wind same as ross for the kick to touch.

    Sexton losing his head at the ref and carty was very childish. Carty laughing at him was the best response. Sexton is toxic



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Hopefully. I've been a big fan for years and think he has it in him to be the absolute standout backrow in the country by a significant margin. But his handling is starting to frustrate me slightly.

    But yes, his rugby intelligence is excellent. He picks such good lines and is able to make huge impacts at the key moments.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Hansen, Oliver and Keenan and Doris the stand outs for me. Bealham as well deserves a mention

    When Leinster went 10 up in the first half it looked pretty ominous, but huge credit to Connacht to be fair.

    JOB relatively quiet but had some big moments when he was involved, can see him being involved in NZ.

    Luke McGrath must be very frustrating for Leinster fans; capable of excellence and capable of some awful passing.

    Leinster are excellent at identifying when to give pens away within their 22, and particularly near or within their 5m line. They know refs generally wait for a break in play, or an advantage kicked away, to give a warning, so they are happy to give 3-4 pens away before then, say. If you give those pens away centrally, where the attacking team are more likely to kick 3 points, that is often a massive win, rather than a yellow and potentially 7 points.

    Fully expect Leinster to ease away in the 2nd leg, but Connacht made a better fist of it than I thought they might.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ Kylan Rapid Pilgrim


    JS really gets on my tail, he always seems like an ass to Carty.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    I think that’s particularly harsh in Liam Williams. And probably Jordie Barrett as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭ersatz


    JGP was very lucky not to get a red. He lifted his shoulder into the impact without attempting to wrap and connected with Marmion's face, the ref described it as "bracing' for the tackle but you could just as easily characterize it as bringing his shoulder up into the tackle instead of bending his hips to bring his shoulder down away from the head. I'd see it similar to the tackle by Dagge on Henshaw that took Henshaw out of the return match after Chicago. That match (was one that) resulted in World Rugby changing the rules to protect players from head impacts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I can't remember many handling errors from Doris over the course of the games against Munster or Connacht. Generally, I think his handling is actually quite good. He's adept at offloading and passing.

    I think there are a few reasons why he has made more high profile errors in an Ireland jersey. The first being that test rugby is just played to a higher standard than even the biggest of inter pro derbies or Champions Cup knocks out games. The defence is in your face that must quicker and you haven't as much time on the ball. That leads to the greater chance of making an error.

    The second reason is that Doris, when playing for Ireland, is used as a primary passer in the forwards. He passes more often in green than in blue imo. He looks to get his hands free so often to make an offload or pass. The more you do that the more you open yourself up to the chance of making a mistake. I posted in one of the Six Nations match threads that I thought opposition coaches had become wise to the fact that Doris trys to tip on the ball so often. Scotland especially flooded the passing channel whenever Doris received the ball.



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Sexton is trash a big bully who must be toxic in a squad. Reminds me of him stamping and roaring at Carbery years back. the guy is like a big child and stomping around after the game not shaking hands sums him up. Good rugby player garbage human



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Jim, at the very least you should use better material.

    Sexton is clearly the leader of the dressing room and an overall positive influence in the squad. For Leinster and for Ireland.

    Need I direct you to every single one of his teammates in exultation after he scored his try against Argentina on his 100th cap?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,770 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,631 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Seriously quality player. Would love to have him in Munster. (and I think we already have very decent fullbacks)

    Ridiculously dependable and always a threat from deep



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,297 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Thought the ref had a decent enough game in all fairness. The TMO got on my wick a few times. Picked up (rightly) some of our infringements but was nowhere to be seen for the review of the Connacht try, which I'm still sure should not have been allowed. At a minimum he should have been taking a good look at it.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,631 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Wasn't too impressed with Conan tonight

    In the first half he came off the back of the scrum and was stopped dead by a single Connacht back

    Your 8 needs to be bulldozing those tackles in that position



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Hes trash and a bully which is why the irish public dislike him along with many players



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,355 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I thought JGP should have been given a red. I admit that I don't know the exact framework for what a red card is. I hadn't heard of the factor of 'accepting the collision', which the referee spoke of. But the tackle was similar enough to others that had resulted in sending offs that I wouldn't have complained if JGP had met the same fate.

    But there's a world of difference between JGPs challenge and this awful tackle made by a Brive player in their game against Saracens tonight. The former was far more passive. The Brive player launched himself shoulder first into the head of the Saracens player.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,000 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    As long as we can disagree ;)

    thought he was rubbish and the only downer on what was an entertaining contest.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 923 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    Well sorry Jim but think he is great and an absolute legend. The toughest and most competitive 10 Ireland has ever had, will be a sad day when he finally hangs up his boots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,631 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Wow, that's bad.

    Should be getting a very lengthy ban for that one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,631 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    He has certain qualities, to be sure, but you'd have him on your team if you could. (unless you're Warren Gatland, but then they lost that series)



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    Yeah Conan's form has dipped. Couple of times today I thought he maybe lacked confidence to make decisions off the back of a dominant scrum but in an interview during the week he indicated that he felt the same about his current form so hopefully it's on the way back - you can't fix a problem you don't realise exists and he seems clued in for the most part. Will watch the game back but thought he generally showed up well on and off the ball.

    On comments around Sexton that I've seen quoted, the guy was humbled by the Irish crowd in the Aviva to the point he couldn't out speak them into a microphone plugged into the loud speakers. He is overwhelmingly supported by reasonable and rationale people that love rugby and see one of the great leaders of the game in action. I've regularly likened him to Martin Johnson who had plenty of detractors but ultimately led a side to a world cup win and Sexton is far more influential in this Irish side.

    He has been voted world player of the year. He has been a Lions starter. He is the most decorated Irish outhalf ever by some margin and one of the greatest players we've ever produced. He is unreasonably competitive in an almost Roy Keaneesque fashion but when he switches off outside of competition is well capable of being humble and retrospect as is well demonstrated. He's not a gifted athlete, but he is the most hard working and committed player Ireland has ever produced in a position where being a dedicated student of the game adds value and despite not being fast or having a step he's learned to defend like a forward (which Ross Byrne has inherited) and is one of the most gifted distributers in world rugby.

    It's sad but mostly predictable that people can't get beyond their grudges to realise the impact he's had on the game in Ireland, and I say that as someone who thought he let Leinster down a bit today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,433 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Well said, Venjur.

    Sorry, what I mean to say there was "I can't believe you're defending a flat track garbage bully who hates our Jack and is a big meanie to him. Poor sweet innocent Jack Carty."



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Lets forget about sexton stamping and roaring at Carberry. The guy has history and is a known bully whos petulant behaviour is famous world wide. He is a piece of trash imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,634 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers



    Its the lewis hamilton factor.

    Your allowed to be a c&nt when your winning because it means you are driven (pun intended) and focused, behave like that when your losing and your just a see you next tuesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Maybe Carberry needs to put on his big boy pants Jim? He appears to be meek? Probably from being in Sextons shadow for so long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,968 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    there's no force and JGP is completely passive...

    virtually no level of danger.

    Tell that to Marmion's nose😲



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭DBK1


    My view on it exactly. I’m after watching it back 6 or 8 times and I had to check the time and date on the video to be sure I wasn’t watching a tackle from a different match. As you said never in a million years is that a red card.

    JGP was actually retreating backwards and Marmion runs straight into him. Unless JGP was expected to either jump out of the way or lie down and let Marmion jump over him there’s no more he could have done. And Marmion dips into him too which makes it look worse. I think a yellow was just about the right call if not even a bit harsh on JGP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭DBK1


    And yours would also be the opinion of every player that has ever played with or against him along with the vast majority of genuine rugby supporters.

    I’m new to the rugby forum here but if that’s the same jimdemp that does be spouting pure drivel on The42 then I wouldn’t be paying much heed to him. To call him biased would be an understatement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    So what you are saying is that Marmion broke his own nose ?? Maybe he should get cited and a ban for it ??



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Would you say that to someone who has been assaulted ? No Carberry showed class and respect for others something Sexton will never have. I seriously think he may have arrested development from playing rugby and getting too many hits. I may be wrong but mentally he acts like a teenager. I will be paying close attention to him as he ages after rugby



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Coombes knows how it feels to be on the receiving end of dirty leinster play that goes unpunished



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Yawn Jim! You jocks are probably overflowing with the shyte you spew.

    You obviously despise Leinster and it must drive you nuts that they have been so successful over the last few years.

    I feel your pain, it must be a heinous feeling, " deranged Leinster syndrome ".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭freyners


    Think this a bit silly. Fully agree with what venjur posted. Overall sexton has been a massive positive for Irish rugby but every so often he goes beyond competitive to petulant and that is what he was in that interaction, honestly carty laughing it off and making his point in a calm manner made him look all the better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Leinster benefitted from that last week and as said at the time it’s something that is rarely punished once a try has been scored. It’s incredibly annoying and easily fixed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    I didn't see the game last week but Connacht were on a warning last night, ref calls pen advantage and Leinster score. It should have been a card.

    Papaili should have got a YC for his lunge on VDF.

    The Connacht try in 2nd half should never have stood IMO, At very least it should have been looked at.

    JGP should have got red. His last motion was to move forward. If he had continued to step backwards then fine, but he didn't. Think Cipriani in Thomond about 4 or 5 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,179 ✭✭✭OldRio


    I must agree regarding the audio levels on BT. Appalling and amateurish. Also the overhyping of everything is painful trash.

    Cracking game of Rugby.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    hLast week they had about 5 offences during an advantage, it was crazy. I agree on Papali’i, why is he even jumping? VdF was hardly going to kick it.

    TMOs picking and choosing when to get involved (as that’s what it looks like is infuriating), the Connacht try and Sexton’s high tackle are just two examples from the same game.


    JGP’s yellow was just nonsense. “Accepting the tackle” is up there with the “medium force” nonsense from a few seasons back. None of them spotted the repeated no arm tackles from Connacht either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Jaysus even in the Leinster v Connacht thread Van Grann can't get a free pass ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,297 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I don't think many would have complained if it was a red. I think the ref explained why he thought their was mitigation to a yellow though, he just explained it arseways.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    The Dagg incident was on Stander in that great match. Henshaw went off after doing a little twirl and then viciously head butting Cane's shoulder 😁

    Last night's match was very enjoyable as a neutral. Glad Connacht put up a fight. Was worried that they were going to get blown away. Can't see them winning next Friday and I think it will end up being quite one sided.



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    What a childish and classless response. No wonder you idolize the petulance of Sexton. You stick to trash like sexton and mcgregor

    Ill stick to VDF, Furlong and Dan Carter for my standards of respect



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Papaili pulled out of the tackle and turned. Maybe a bit of his butt grazed vdf but doubt that is a yellow lol

    JGP was a clear red and with mcgrath gone off so Leinster would of had no 9 to replace him.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    If Connacht had sexton they’d be in the top four in URC table. His attitude, mentality and drive, set standards and consistency that lack in Galway. Right up there with the best sports people Ireland have ever produced.



  • Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    Munster have 2 wins more then Connacht and are in the top 4 if you think he gives Connacht 2 more wins fair enough but Carty has played much more mins then him. I think Connacht would be lower in the table because he rarely plays urc and Connacht would suffer due to their lack of depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Lol. Your dislike of Sexton, our best player in Ireland and your promotion of Carty, is class and funny.

    Next year you'll be praising Murphy, Hawkshaw etc al, just cos they play for Connacht.

    I do agree that Sexton can be a langer. But, we have known this for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Big Pap is a waste of funding. He brings very little to the table. He's just a big man.



  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭tvpc


    Sexton was like a spoilt child throwing his toys out of the pram. Carty and Aki laughing at him were like the adults. Sad thing is unlike children who grow up and mature sexton is nearly 40



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