General Star Trek thread

I've tried rewatching ENT and honestly I think it's useless with the exception of T'Pol. In no way did I ever find it dark and if anything wasn't dark enough.

I found about 5 episodes of Voyager that I enjoyed and wanted to see again.

I wouldn't bother rewatching either of them or Discovery again.

Even BGS got ropey at times. Expanse is my new gold standard.

Expanse gets better as it goes whereas BSG got a good bit worse as it went on. I do love BSG but found myself doing a fair bit of skipping on rewatch last year.

The early sci-fi seasons of Expanse had some average effects and acting alright.

Give The Expanse another try? Absolutely!!

I found season 1 difficult to get through too -- that hard-boiled space-detective thing just wasn't for me -- but it's 100% worth it. Would be my gold standard for TV sci-fi at the moment too.

That's fair. I don't know these guys but from the video I feel I know the type. Maybe that's on me.

That's the bit I don't like, and they discuss it with the usual tropes and phrases (dismissing "the only" male character as a "beta", etc). The scene, or the series, isn't bad because not enough straight white men are in it and I think if the writing and production weren't so poor otherwise, then the diversity of characters and casting would be a small triumph. It would definitely be cool to see and in definitely in keeping with the idea of a Star Trek future.

So maybe it's just a poor clip, but it's just the clip I'm commenting on.

The other thing is these "reviewers" just redo these same lines over and over for every episode of every season. If it wasn't about wahwah "woke" they would have just stopped reviewing it a long time ago.

Worst of all are the "here's my episode by episode review of the show NOBODY is watching". Like why the fk are you reviewing it then. Plenty more balanced reviewers just stopped when they saw it had nothing for them.

Definitely give The Expanse another try. I'd be the same as you, BSG is one of the best sci fi series in the past twenty years, until The Expanse. Though The Expanse takes a lot longer to get into. It didn't have the advantage of the mini movie setting the stage, or the "first" episode which immediately creates the tension. It's slow, and takes its time. But well worth it.

With regards the posted video I didn't keep watching once I saw yer man Nerdrotic was involved. I will pile heaps of (deserved) criticism upon Discovery, don't get me wrong. I think it is the worst Trek show with very little to be found in terms of writing or acting ability. But as far as I'm concerned he's a crank, and the type of youtube commentator that gives fuel to those who say that any criticisms of Discovery are due to people not liking the show being led by a woman (though not the best I enjoy Voyager quite a bit), a person of colour (Sisko is the best), or because it shows diversity (to be fair, subtlety in story is not the strongest point of new trek). I just can't abide these disingenuous reviews on youtube that approach everything as negative for the sake of the algorithm. Make a coherent argument that's fine, but both sides should stop with either the fawning praise, and the utterly damning criticism, for the sake of views. I can't say I've come across the other participants in that video, but I take Nerdrotics criticism in the same vein I take Ferricks trekculture praise. With a massive pince of salt. Though at least Ferrick does spend some time actually enjoying other trek shows.

Enterprise I did stop watching at the time as it came out due to season one being a bit shite, and being in college with no TV, but there are some solid episodes there, and I really wish they had gotten to season 5 because the redesign is fantastic, and the writers did seem to find the way during season 3/4.

As a bit of a neckbeard, F**k those neckbeards on youtube giving the rest of us a bad name!

Jesus lads. Yee have me convinced.

Back to The Expanse for me, so!

You can thank us later. We are those guys! (Best. Expanse. Scene. Ever!)

Discovery literally made the ship a character.

I love the final episode of BSG but the last season had problems as did the New Caprica section half way through. Galactica is possibly the best looking ship in sci-fi (proper alpha captain too🤣) and your dead right that after a 7 year trip we should have felt that about Voyager but it never got there outside year of hell.

Also very right about the lack of ship porn although they finally gave us a little bit in Star Gazer.

So when Seven developed multiple personalities due to some Borg technology going wrong, Tuvok tries to help her with a mind meld, which the Doctor is against due to the unpredictability

Out of nowhere, The Doctor then hits Tuvok with a devastating quip

With all of these new personalities floating around, it's a shame we can't find one for you.

What the fck Doc? Thank God Tuvok suppressed his emotions cos that was vicious.