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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    It goes to the retailer. Government don't take it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,321 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    God bless Wetherspoons even if they are all mostly soulless kips

    We're getting one here in Waterford in a few weeks



  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    That's even more mind boggling so. Was it the vintners association that looked for it or how did it come about? sorry if I'm derailing the thread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,225 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I'd happily drink with a few friends in a "soulless kip" if the price of a pint is reasonable. "Atmosphere" don't mean crap if you can all have a laugh or a conversation together.

    To hell with all these price gouging pricks, who think that just because their boozer has some old seats they can up the price to whatever they feel like that week and they all upped their prices after Covid to take advantage of people's excitement at being able to go out again after two years of lockdowns.

    Bit it will get to a point where people will just not take it any more, and more boozers will shut up shop for good...and ya know what...fuck em.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It was lobbied for by groups like Alcohol Action Ireland and representative bodies for the pub and off licence industries including LVA (Dublin pubs), VFI (country pubs) and National Off Licence Association.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I did and for some years before 2018 but sadly to no avail.

    Along with all the other drinkers in Ireland who enjoy a drink in the comfort of their own homes I was stitched up from the start.

    MUP uniquely had 100% support from all parties in the Dail.

    Think about that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭enricoh


    My niece had a coffee from Starbucks with her the other day, I asked how much -e6.50!

    I said fair play to them getting suckers to pay it, same goes for the publicans. I paid e50 for 5 long necks 10 years ago in a pub in Milan. I gave up complaining about prices back here after it!



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,225 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    €6.50 for a coffee?

    Fuckin hell. There's no bloody way that that's anything but simply taking the piss.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Lot's of bills get 100%, then when people find out about it, or mood changes then the opposition parties all bolt and try to make out they never voted for it. That's the joys of politics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭elperello



    100% of them voted to make drink artificially more expensive and give the money to the drinks trade.

    Great what good lobbying can do.

    Not much joy for someone like me who drinks sensibly but ends up being penalised because "Ireland" has a drink problem.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    How much has your sensible drinking gone up by?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭hynesie08




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I think we may be at cross purposes.

    I thought you were asking was I drinking more but reading it again I think you were asking how much of my drink has gone up in price.

    The answer to that is few hundred a year.

    I'll do a proper tot tomorrow and get back to you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Would you go away and do some research. For God sake, it has NOTHING to do with transporting goods to a very small market on the edge of Europe.

    Jesus Christ, such horsesh*t has been posted once before and the poster still hasn't come out of hiding from sheer embarrassment.

    It's tax and Bullshi*t is the reason we were already highest in EU, and now more Bullsh*t.

    McEntee just announced the nightclubs are going to stay open until 6am. Who's fecking health is that watching? The youngest sections of drinkers? The ones who are starting out in life and discovering alcohol etc.. They see the high prices in the off licences, and think it is just as costly as going to the pub, socialise, get drunk, and stay drinking until 6am.

    How is that looking after anyone's health?

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    I was in Malahide on Sunday evening, and it was €5.40 in the bar for a pint of Guinness. All the bars out that way have it sewn up. None of them great, Gibneys is a bit of a kip, and the pints in there are the most expensive.

    A pint of beer in the lounge of any of them is apparently €6.80. I won't be visiting there for a while.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,225 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    €6.80 for a Guinness? In Malahide?

    Jesus Christ.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Not sure about Guinness in lounge, sorry. I meant lager. I didn't go into any lounge, just had two pints in bar meeting somebody. I was told it is €6.80 for a lager and I think he said 10 cents less for a Guiness, but he was talking about Gibneys, and apparently they have a 3 or 4 tier price structure, so I got a bit confused/didn't care enough to pay much attention. They have a bar, a lounge, and an upstairs all on different prices and some bar out the back that can be different or something. Not sure. I was across the road, and it was pretty empty and pricey too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,383 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Why or how would ALDI, Tesco, Dunnes Stores build treatment centres?

    MUP is not a tax, it is a price floor, the extra revenue accrues to the supplier and seller



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,383 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    People say tax is the reason for high prices here.

    Excise on beer is lower here than in the UK, or close, depending on the exchange rate.

    Don't fall for the excuses from the brewers and publicans.


    Diageo make Guinness in Dublin, and charge less for it in NI, than in Dublin.

    Even though it has to be transported to NI, and even though the excise is similar.

    It is due to a lack of competition between brewers.


    Lots of brewers in the UK, some of whom compete on price.

    We have more breweries here now, but the new microbrewers do not compete on price in the on-trade (they do for the own-brand in ALDI and Lidl).



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,383 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    JD Wetherspoon charge 3.55 for stout in central Dublin.

    They face the same / similar overheads as other pub chains.

    Yet they charge much less, why or how?

    (1) They buy the beverages at a lower cost, that is a big part of it. They pass on the bulk purchase discount, whereas the Irish chains don't.

    (2) They make lower profits.

    A business plan for a new Dublin pub in the Sunday Times envisages a 30% net margin.

    Spoons make under 10% net margin.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    UK are only slightly higher (if they are even higher atm), and are crazy high anyway, It is tax. Tax and Bullcrap. The pubs in Ireland put their own extras on it. I know of some pubs even paying commission to bar staff.

    Beer is not the only drink. Ireland has the highest in the EU on wine, we are only behind Finland with beer, and again with spirits. The drop after that is colossal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    I agree, but Wetherspoons is like the ryanair of pubs. They have cuts everywhere, TV, music, no idea of staff arrangements (how many, wages etc) and as you said, they buy in bulk.

    Irish pubs can't compete against that, especially smaller ones. It's insane how the doors were opened for the likes of wetherspoons, much easier for them to gain dominance in a relatively short period of time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 DS86DS.


    Cheap cans of lager have risen from 75 cents to €1.39 since the introduction of Minimum Alcohol Pricing. The twelve packs seem to be gone as well.

    Do these brands stand any chance in future considering they are nearly the same price now as the traditionally more expensive ones?



  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    That's Paris, it is not a tax, it is a choice. You can drive a bit further down the road and get it cheaper, but even in Paris the alcohol in the supermarkets is cheap.

    In Ireland, the price of a pint in Dublin in more expensive than the rest of Ireland, but it never drops significantly. With MUP it won't in the off sales either.

    Would like to see a pints.ie like pumps.ie and find out where the cheapest pint in Ireland is.



  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers




  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    ah dry up it is a choice here too go to a pub thats not screwing you , very easy to do



  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Roxxers


    business rates way more in Dublin as are wages you are talking out your arse



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Introduction of MUP was a joke. Rising the 75cent can to 1.39 and a 6% can to 2.40 and a bottle of vodka from 10 euro to 15 won't stop an alcoholic or potential alcoholic or anyone that wants to get wasted...they'll just either pay more or buy drugs.

    Pints are basically gone up a euro across the board in cork city center. The local cork IPAs are around the 6 euro now....(no distribution costs there!) Meanwhile witherspoons have good ales and ipas for 2.50.

    But one is allowed charge what one wants...that's the way of de world.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    The carry on of you, will you cop on to yourself.

    Guess what, people have different opinion, get over it and move on instead of following people around a forum to attack them.

    If you don't have the basic manners to respond in a dignified manner to people, then don't bother and especially don't bother quoting me.



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