Baptising children

Are you satisfied with the open discrimination of women and homosexuals by your religion?

And what are your thoughts on the past atrocities committed by trusted members of your religion on defenceless women and children?

Third time by my count. Its good to know the youth of the country are in such civil, thoughtful care.

Morons, ignorant, clueless - his classroom must be a delight.

You're still ignoring my question. What is your opinion on the catholic church openly discriminating against women and homosexuals in 2022?

"bouncy castle catholic"!! :) LOL, I'll have to remember that one, as good a description as any. Though the bouncy castles are unusual at the other end of life when suddenly people start to get more religious..

I dont lie awake wondering about it. I just can't understand the amount of people who go along with a baptism to tick the box or keep others happy, but would have voted to repeal the 8th, celebrate international women's day on social media, voted to legalise same sex marriage, when the catholic church treats women and homosexuals differently to heterosexual males. It's incomprehensible in Ireland in 2022.

If a company openly said no women can apply to work here and homosexuality is not tolerated, it would be admonished. Huge double standards in Ireland by many people similar to the OP's wife.

First World Problem

Not happy being a Catholic. Move to a other Christian religion or other religion ... or none ... being part of a religion involves following the rules and actively participating and believing.

Repeat until happy ...

Still not happy, let your kid decide as an adult, don't put your unhappiness or discontent or fear or pretence or half heartedness on your kids.

But make sure you kid is a good person in and to society. This is the important bit. Think people miss this bit.

That's my sermon over 😅😅😅

Citation needed. The census figures don't support this assertion. Lots of people who were happily ticking the RC box in decades past are now stating they have no religion.

It might suit the change averse ultra-conservatives controlling the Dept of Education, but they (but in reality, us) fund all voluntary schools exactly the same whether they are religious ethos or not.

Well I'm troubled by the fact that an organisation with a history of numerous crimes against children is still in control of the overwhelming majority of the schools in our country.

If a creche had a board of directors that said women cannot work here and we will facilitate the abuse and cover up of sexual abuse of the children that attend here, as well as burying some of them in septic tanks, oh and also we will not accept homosexual children into this creche, there would be marches in the street. So why is the catholic church still allowed to have so much influence over schools? The Hyde and Seek creche that was the subject of an RTE investigates program was treated worse for a lesser crime.

Also what really confuses me is why devout church goers want these children baptised when it is just for the big days out. What purpose does it serve? If you ran a football team you wouldn't accept a child skipping training and matches all year to just show up for the final.

Anyway we are of polar opposite views and will never agree so may aswell leave it there.

Parents get their babies baptised because

1. Its 'what you do' regardless of any religious considerations.
2. Its insurance policy religion. 'Something bad will happen if I do or don't do certain actions'.
3. They have genuine faith and want their child to be part of it.

People are free to follow any of these paths, but in the first two cases they are ceding authority to an organisation that has outlived its position in secular society. If the people in the third group want to continue in their religion that's fine, but the church's authority in secular matters is no longer relevant or appropriate and it should have no more power than any other social group in society; they can be free to promote their ideas same as any social or interest group, but having unelected people in a position to dictate or be moral arbiter to the rest of the population is not acceptable.

This is the most ridiculous suggestion. In many cases you won't have any option, especially if you live in a rural area. It really isn't a lot to ask that people can expect to have the state provide school places for kids without religious indoctrination. It is setting the bar really low actually, especially as it would cost nothing.

It also shows the typical "F you" type attitude you get from a lot of supposed Christians. You see it a lot in the states. So long as they have what they want they couldn't care less about anyone else. These type of people turn up at church each week collecting tokens for heaven, rather than you know actually trying to live a good life and be kind to others.