Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

The money needed to fund this will become unserviceable once interest rates start going up and food shortages start hitting. There will be famine in ME and SA as Ukrainian, Russia and Belarus are major exporters of grain and fertiliser. Turkeys is already in financial trouble and Pakistan is next, inflation over there is getting out of hand already. I don’t think the government nevermind people are prepared. This is all before the winter energy crisis.

That part was referring to the people living at home. Canada for one there (and you can make an argument renting falls into the Canadian definition at times).

Their definition for example

 That is, homelessness encompasses a range of physical living situations, organized here in a typology that includes 1) Unsheltered, or absolutely homeless and living on the streets or in places not intended for human habitation; 2) Emergency Sheltered, including those staying in overnight shelters for people who are homeless, as well as shelters for those impacted by family violence; 3) Provisionally Accommodated, referring to those whose accommodation is temporary or lacks security of tenure, and finally, 4) At Risk of Homelessness, referring to people who are not homeless, but whose current economic and/ or housing situation is precarious or does not meet public health and safety standards. It should be noted that for many people homelessness is not a static state but rather a fluid experience, where one’s shelter circumstances and options may shift and change quite dramatically and with frequency

Unsheltered and Emergency Sheltered are really what we consider it as. For number 3, Canada's definition uses the example of

PEOPLE LIVING TEMPORARILY WITH OTHERS, BUT WITHOUT GUARANTEE OF CONTINUED RESIDENCY OR IMMEDIATE PROSPECTS FOR ACCESSING PERMANENT HOUSING Often referred to as ‘couch surfers’ or the ‘hidden homeless’, this describes people who stay with friends, family, or even strangers. They are typically not paying rent, their duration of stay is unsustainable in the long term, and they do not have the means to secure their own permanent housing in the future. They differ from those who are staying with friends or family out of choice in anticipation of prearranged accommodation, whether in their current hometown or an altogether new community. This living situation is understood by both parties to be temporary, and the assumption is that it will not become permanent.

Now, myself and lots of people I know aren't living at home by choice. We're living at home cos rent is unaffordable and buying a house is impossible.

They can apply for HAP for houses without a LL living there. They can apply for Rent allowance/supplement if they are renting a room in a family home.

I don't understand why people keep saying its supposed to be charity. I was always to pledge a bed. It was never supposed to be pledge a bed for free. Some will if this is what they want to do but it's always been clear that anyone wanting to rent a room can do so. There are people that usually rent spare rooms to foreign students. They pledged to keep those rooms for refugees. You expect them to lose the rent they would always get renting a room? It was clear from the get go that you could charge or offer for free.

But what makes you think that those who pledged a room/ rooms in their own house want anything for it? I absolutely don't, in fact when I spoke to the red cross I was told it 'will most likely be at your own expense' and I said no problem. What sort of a fool pledges to take people in if they cannot afford it? Obviously you will always get the randomers who see a chance to make a few euro but don't tar all with the same brush. For me, it's simply to try and help desperate people in their hour of need, my home will be heated regardless of who's living in it.

While I fully get the concerns listed here regarding the huge numbers and potential knock on effects for housing/ health care etc, it's almost like some people don't want to see any Ukrainian people accommodated and those who do try to help must have an ulterior motive. Is it that hard to believe that some people just want to show compassion and do whatever they can? For me, a lot of the upset is the helplessness, looking at pictures of dead children but not being able to do a thing. And if that makes me 'too emotional ', then so be it but my husband is the same.

So are any politicians taking in any refugees themselves or is that just for us plebs? Surly leading by example and taking a pay cut is what’s best for the country and the situation. I mean these are ‘extraordinarily times’.

They'll be in tents from Monday, some hotels have only signed up for a short stint n will be having tourists instead for the summer. The government is still 'looking into' paying paying people for taking in refugees and the housing minister has said there will be no limit on numbers coming.

This is gonna be some mess.

According to some genius on here earlier we have 2 million sq kms of land in Ireland and the average person only takes up 2 sq metres of space so it'll all be grand apparently.

This is one of the best and most generous countries in Europe for the Ukrainians to end up in. That’s obvious from the extremely generous offer and the numbers now coming in.

Hold on to what you have and where you have and for fûcks sake stay healthy… the road ahead is going to be rough until we can extricate ourselves from the EU… this absolute disaster.

Currently over 9000 people are living in "emergency accomodation" around the country ..

False narrative ,yeah no

Fair enough even when presented with real numbers and backed up with a source.

"By the end of January, there were 106 families residing in commercial hotels. In January 2021, that number was 175. This is a reduction of 69 families. The highest number was in March 2017 when the number of families in commercial hotels reached 871."