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Moon Knight - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    I'm just so confused about the DID thing; how come Steven didn't know about Marc before, he clearly suspected with the ankle restraints and the sand but had he not missed days before the first episode and if not, what was Marc doing? Just dishing out justice in London? Marc supposedly had a whole life but Layla has never heard of Steven so is the DID a new thing? I just think it's either poorly written or poorly explained.

    Steven's "suit" > Marc's suit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I think they've put us (the audience) into Stevens perspective. I think there's a few clues that

    he doesn't know because maybe he hasn't been around much. Almost as if Marc was the main user of the body before something happened.

    Where could it be leading.. i dunno. It looks like they are intro-ing a new character using this technique. Feels fair to not overload it all at once.

    If I was to guess.. Marc was involved in something really bad.. wanted to make up for it.. made a deal to work for Khonshu to try but had to allow for Steven as part of the price. Seems also that he didn't want Layla involved or to know so I guess she wasn't there when the bad thing went down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The one above the fire extinguisher in the last episode also went to the same link.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Second episode was okay I thought. The story is very whacky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    Marvel are churning out some absolute garbage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    3: It's wierd.. there was action, adventure and special effects in this episode but.. it all kinda felt a bit dull.

    Ethan Hawkes performance in his few scenes felt stronger than most of the episode.

    The crunches of the glass in his slippers at the end! 😬


    Was able to get the location on google maps for the coordinates they gave. It's..

    on the border of Egypt and Libya

    Link: https://goo.gl/maps/f2Ckm9V6yfY3UGyT8


    So anyway.. I guess

    this Ammit is on the way.. one way or another. I wonder will Ammit just be represented by Hawke like the other gods or maybe be shown like Konshu is.. well.. was



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I am a bit confused how the communication between Stephen and Marc works since it seems to rely on mirrors sometimes but just voice in head at other times.

    So seems to be a third personality who's got no problem with violence. No comic spoilers please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,070 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Surely the eternals have something to do with all of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,972 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    He sounds like Jude Law in Contagion. That is not a good thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    There's a hint to a three personality in the first episode too 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    I think they are just using mirrors as it's easier to show them talk to each other in the real world than just voice in his head. Makes it easier for the audience to see the difference between Stephen and Marc too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    Felt like an odd episode, it felt both rushed and slow at the same time and almost like it wasn't episode 3 but further into the series (I actually thought I missed something).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    My thoughts too - it's like we've been dropped into the middle of the story. I'm sure anyone that has read the source are fine but for anyone else we're trying to work out what the hell is happening. I'm just not grabbed by the story yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I think I'm done with this show. I could find certain positives in the previous episodes but that one was just pure garbage.

    The scene involving the gods passing judgement was like something from a bad amateur dramatics performance. The storyline is confusing gobbledygook involving characters searching for a magical item to unleash some mystical spell that we have to trust is very important yet the stakes feel contrived. That's bad enough but it's worse when the characters are so wooden and boring. The protagonist has two personalities and neither are remotely endearing. Khonshu has been presented as unlikeable which meant what happened to him at the end of the episode evoked nothing from me. The costume looks so phony in the CGI scenes too. This is one of the worst things Marvel has done. Awful.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Yeh this had unfortunately gone the way I predicted it would, stretching out the plot and mysteries needlessly. I'm enjoying the performances but they show around them is just poor. The DID is so poorly explained, I don't know if it's done deliberately for the mystery of it's just bad writing. The trial was laughably, Harrow has an Ammit tattoo on his arm and they didn't think to mention it as evidence. Konshu was like "our case has to be air tight" and their case was like "him, he's a baddun". The show just looks so cheap as well, the fight and chase at the start, the CGI on the Moon Knight suit. I'll keep watching but if this wasn't Marvel, I probably wouldn't.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Should have gone the dark route - find the "in your face" comedy totally off putting, it's not Deadpool



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    After an excellent first 2 episodes, the 3rd was a mess. It was all over the place. Very chaotic. Almost seemed like a different show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The quality of the Marvels TV Projects has been weirdly more hit than miss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,359 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Jude Law was meant to be Australian in that film apparently...


    The accent isnt a massive distraction in this any more for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Third episode was fairly awful. Action scenes are very dull and the plot is beyond nonsensical. Pity as the first episode was very good and had potential



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,026 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Same. First episode left high hopes. I was thinking they'd go the dark route - instead it's the same tired Marvel boilerplate stuff over again. The attempted comedy takes away from what should be a pretty dark and more violent series which would be far better and refreshing in my opinion.

    Also the story, at least up to the middle of episode 3, is actually quite confusing at times which from a screen writing perspective is unforgivable.

    In the end it will be the same as the other Marvel miniseries - totally forgettable.

    That's a shame because it's obvious they had the material to work with here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Have to go against the grain here and say I am enjoying this. The suit looks quite bad and yeah the humour can be annoying at times but Oscar Isaacs is somehow holding the show together. Like Loki I think they have made the plot that much more different than the usual marvel plots that is it was worthwhile making this show. Realistically all the marvel movies will probably be forgotten in the future, doubt any of them are classics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    It's all a bit odd, turn up a rich guys house where he allows them to see his treasured mummy, all a bit James Bond.

    Then the trial where he doesn't even warn them about the raisng of Ahmed.

    I'm sure the womans fancy iPad could have recreated the sky from 2000 years ago if need be.

    Anyway, I'll keep watching, might pick up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    Ha. I was thinking the same. When she was looking at the stars through her tablet I was thinking "I'm sure I've seen an app for that".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Well that was an interesting ending. Can't wait for next episode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4: Some dull but some spooky moments.


    That ending though! lol, I was totally like..




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I'm a bit split personality myself. On one hand it's great to have an original series standing on it's own two feet, on the other though it's hard to see this as an entry into the MCU. Apart from the main title screen and the odd bus ad, there's no real easter eggs or reminders that we're in a shared universe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    As an Egyptology themed episode I liked it but the series still hasn't grabbed me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    For about 35-40 minutes of that episode I was tethering on boredom, could really have called the entire show 'Archaeology Man' (even though he's almost a side-kick in his own show) for the amount we have seen of Moon Knight.

    Those last few minutes swayed back some interest though, but with only 2 episodes left there seems to be a lot to tie up and tell.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18



    Definitely enjoyed that more than last week. Ending very intriguing. I thought of Legion too but also this




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    its a bit like the Brendan Fraser Mummy movies- a bit silly but enjoyable if you turn your brain off. It doesnt feel like a Marvel property which is a good thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭magic_murph


    Its decent. I thought the first episode was like Venom (TERRIBLE movie) where the inside voice was all sarcastic and trying to be funny but that seems to have stop - thankfully.

    As mentioned before its just a switch the brain off and watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Enjoying this but it definetly needed that last 10 minute switch up in the format in order to keep it from getting a bit too deep into being an Indiana Jones knockoff with added personalities. I like that they've sidelined MoonKnight. He's too much of a deus ex machina that could be used to resolve any conflict. They managed to limit his use well enough for the first 3 episodes but they needed to properly take him out of the equation to let Marc and Stephen stay front and center. He is of course going to be back for the final episode so I can wait for the final act action.

    RE the ending of ep 4, I'm guessing because he was shot / died in the temple water he's on some astro/god plane which he will have to escape and by doing so will revive in the real world. The Hippo seemed friendly so maybe she'll help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I enjoyed the horror/ Tomb raider type segments, it fleshed out Layla and didnt make her a Mary sue. Moon Knight does seems to have no discernable weaknesses. Can be shot/stabbed no problem. Its only though the other gods stupidity and Laylas and Marks bad decision making that the villain is doing well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,214 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I watched the available episodes with my kids yesterday, they were disappointed that they have to wait to see the next two episodes. I found it entertaining enough but I'm unsure as to how it will fit together with the MCU or maybe that's the point, they've made the series because they can and people will watch it.

    My thoughts on episode 4 is that Marc Spector being shot and presumably killed in the tomb is uncannily like the events of the Moon Knight character's origin story in the comics.

    It would be an interesting twist to see him restored to life as Ammit's avatar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    4 episodes in and honestly still don't really know what's going on. Can't get in to it at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,386 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'm kind of ambivalent about the show overall, even with the ending of Episode 4. It's fine. I enjoy the performances, but there's very little going on. Plus I saw f*ck all of Episode 4 because of how dark it was.

    The ending of Episode 4 might efinitely be the thing to tip the show into something interesting, but so far, it's all just... fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭twinex


    Is the one who plays Layla Irish by any chance. It seems an accent is slipping in and out...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    From IMDB

    May Calamawy (born October 28, 1986) is a Bahraini born, Egyptian-Palestinian actress. She completed her undergrad in Acting at Emerson College and continued her studies at William Esper. She is known for the Hulu series Ramy, Marvel's Moon Knight for Disney+, National Geographic's The Long Road Home, CBS' FBI and Madame Secretary, and NBC's The Brave.

    There is a clearly Irish actor there though, the bearded "cop" who is one of Harrow's goons. IMDB tells me that David Ganly played Ben Dunne in RTÉs Charlie Haughy drama a few years ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭twinex


    Thanks, I wonder was she going for a "British" accent and sure aren't we all the one anyway...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,359 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I'm still watching but it's hit and miss.

    The actress playing the female lead is absolutely dreadful which doesn't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    really enjoying this show. Didn’t know what to expect with Oscar Isaac being involved as in his previous fantasy projects (X-Men and Star Wars) he was just terrible.

    Here though he seems to actually care.

    I know nothing about Moon Knight but it was obviously from episode 3 that there is at least one other personality in there. The second sarcophagus in the asylum confirms this.

    I was genuinely left wondering several times during the asylum sequence whether the previous episodes really happened or whether it is the way back to Khonshu.

    I find it very odd that it is four episodes in and with no reference to to the rest of the MCU - I don’t mean having other characters appear but the Snap was world changing so surely it warrants a mention in all the shows and movies. However a simple bit of “thanos was right” graffiti or Harrow including Thanos in the list of evil doers that Amunet is oils have stopped before the evil was done.

    Post edited by Spon Farmer on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    5: I .. eh.. 😲 .. hmmm... but like..

    but like

    is that them done? how could that be them done?

    and what about the third?

    and.. jeez not Stephen like.. he must've grown on me during the Season


    Anyway, whole lotta Oscar Isaac in that one!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Episode 5 was very good. Pity the best episode of the season is so late in the game when many people seem to have written off the show. Also not great that some of the better episodes are when Moon Night doesnt appear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,711 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I feel empty watching this show - it's an origin story in reverse

    One episode to go and it feels like there has been no story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,386 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I thought that was a fantastic episode. Definitely feels late for such a deep dive into the main character, and with only one more episode to go there's a lot to wrap up to the point I feel it runs the risk of being rushed and unsatisfying.

    We had the hints at a third personality, Layla's father, rescuing Khonshu, the other gods, Harrow, and Marc still has to get out of where he is. And we've barely had any Moon Knight in the last two episodes which means we're in for a big CGI fight in the finale.

    But Oscar Isaac has been terrific throughout, and he nailed both roles in this episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Yeah agree with all of that - big fan of Oscar Issac in this.

    It's a storytelling mess though - there's so many threads and most of them aren't developed at all really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Credit to the effects team for giving us two Oscars, a talking Hippo and I couldn't see the joins. Even the Psych ward mirrors were considered.



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