Murders of two gay men in Sligo

To review here. The suspect is 22, not 20. Some of the most solid couples I know, same sex or hetero, have 25+ year age gaps so it's not that unusual. But the real kicker here is the implication, that these 2 men who have just been murdered, were "groomers" a term going around at the moment to describe gay men. It's a term meant to imply that all gay men are peadophiles. It's to normalise hatred against that section of society, which then inevitably leads to violence against that community. All of this on a thread about 2 men who were targeted and killed because of their sexuality. Trash.

heard on the radio AGS are investigating whether other victims are yet to be discovered, pretty grim if the case

I think they're referring more to whether anyone else was attacked or assaulted by this guy. Common enough for people not to report it, for various reasons. The fear of going to the Gardai, having to tell them you met a guy you didn't know from Grindr and he beat you up. Would the Gardai laugh? I have no doubt some of them would. And others would tell you to cop on and don't be meeting people you don't know. Not least the fact that Sligo is a small place so it would require you having to out yourself officially in order to make a complaint.

There is of course also the potential that there are other murder victims; single men who live alone and wouldn't be noticed if they fell off the grid for a couple of days. I really hope not.

Do you know what google is ?

Think there is one on Friday.

As usual people are assuming.

Hopefully he’ll be charged and this thread will be shut down.

I don't want to speculate on this particular case but one massive and growing area that remains a feeding ground for festering bigotry is the internet.

Where real world learned bigotry in modern day Ireland can no longer radicalize hatred to the extent of consistent cases of assault and murder there are many places online for this radicalization.

We can see from this case that the internet makes murders and attacks easier by allowing easier unvetted access to potential victims.

There are a large proportion of the country which is tolerant, but there are a small number which are not and many of these are on the internet and wide open to further poisoning.

Again, not alleging the case here but this online radicalization crosses many borders and has been responsible for many attacks murders, and mass murders-homophobic, sectarian, anti muslim, anti-semite , and anti western etc.

As a case in point on this thread we have already witnessed a poster try and plant the seed that the culprit may not be Irish in effect calling for racism in response to a deadly homophobic attack.

We have seen in many countries where politicians mildly encourage these general repulsive attitudes because they see that many people are being pushed that way in the online silos and they see easy votes by adopting that right wing point of view.

Just throwing the idea out there that although unknown in this case, the preponderance of online hate groups is causing much polarization and at the extreme end, attacks and murders.

Do not allow Politicians to hand wring and then ignore.

Heinous abhorrent crimes. Absolutely awful. At the core of it you have two men who were well regarded and loved by their friends and families brutally murdered.

This thread and by extension society is such a clusterfuck. Anti immigration, anti LGBT anti non LGBT and everything else at odds with each other. People jumping on agendas and to conclusions. TV weathermen creating issues where there is no issue. "Basically this person had a vigil, why is there no vigil for these men" FFs give it a rest it's only been a few hours.

Quickly. jumping. on. agendas.

Social media - mainly twitter has a lot to be blamed for it's drove people absolutely mental.

In the meantime, as people argue amongst each other, project their misguided options in some cases to suit their agendas and jump to conclusions the memory of the dead fades away into the background.

RIP

I assume Today FM will have a minute's silence too, while there will be an extended feature on the Late Late

Man goes on gay hookup app with ill intentions, creates a list of men from this app he's been in contact with, kills 2 of the men and brutally attacks another.

Conclusion: Sure this isn't targeted at all, stop playing the victim card.