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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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    #5582
    jimdemp
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118926507#Comment_118926507

    Im guessing its experience that has TOH there. Boyle has been making a lot of mistakes and butler is a 7 ( like the new 8 signing) who will compete at ruck something leinster are very strong in. Second row they are going with size to help scrum and maul. Murray and maybe 14 new starters will be out next week against the lions which will be interesting



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    #5583
    jimdemp
    Registered Users Posts: 595 ✭✭✭jimdemp


    You guys who dont rate friend would you prefer Rowntree as head coach in Connacht? If Rowntree is the best munster can get could you see Connacht getting a better coach?



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    #5584
    SqueakyKneecap
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118929136#Comment_118929136

    Not necessarily better in terms of name recognition but definitely there's surely coaches out there that can come up with a better defensive strategy than the turnstiles tactics that Friend and his braintrust have come up with. If playing the all out attacking style we have needs to be scaled back to have a better chance of winning tight games then so be it imo.



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    #5585
    ShineyShiney
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    I'm happy with Friend, think we are about where we deserve to be with the squad we have.

    I'm also happy with our tactical plan except for not taking points some of the time.

    My expectations for next year are to finish 7th/8th/9th. Couldn't care less about a cup run.



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    #5586
    ClanofLams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118929136#Comment_118929136

    I have no idea how good/bad Rowntree is but there’s no reason Connacht couldn’t get a coach who who would ensure a level of consistency was delivered and that Connacht didn’t repeatedly make the same mistakes.



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    #5587
    testtech05
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    This is more like what I feared would happen last week. We had a great start but once Leinster get into their attacking shape they look like scoring every time.


    Bundee probably lucky to only get a yellow there although I thought Keenan was very lucky not to even be reviewed for running in under TOH at the start.


    Gonna be a long 2nd half



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    #5588
    AccidentallyOnside
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    A sobering evening.

    We made mistakes (a lot) but ultimately it didn't matter; we don't have the quality to live with a team playing that well. Not many teams do but it's disappointing when you see how far off we are 😞

    Roll on next year. Think we can give the challenge Cup a good go and maybe get a home quarter/semi final.


    Big Papa will be a loss, we don't have nearly enough players that bring anywhere close to that physicality and it showed today.



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    #5589
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118931879#Comment_118931879

    The ref said the TMO had reviewed it and "boxed it off".



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    #5590
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    Looking at the Leinster 15, you had 12 Ireland starters... Would love to know how many have central contracts(possible 12v1).

    Said it before and I'll say it again, it's a waste of time for the other provinces if the biggest has all the central contracts stocked.. what hope do the other three have.

    Rugby is going to go the same way as the Leinster football championship and the participation levels and attendences will just fall off with the current system in place.

    If the IRFU supports the 4 provinces as equal partners, the biggest province shouldn't have the majority of the Irish team stacked behind them.



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    #5591
    sydthebeat
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    ^

    Why not?

    Why wouldn't the biggest exporter of talent to all the other provinces, be allowed to keep the best players?



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    #5592
    Clegg
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    Dublin have just been relegated from Division 1 of the Allianz League. So your analogy to GAA already falls down.



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    #5593
    TRC10
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    We get the same nonsense whenever Leinster are doing well.

    The rugby communists saying Leinster should be punished for producing the best players.



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    #5594
    Jump_In_Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932504#Comment_118932504

    Because Leinster rugby doesn’t produce any players, the schools and clubs do.



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    #5595
    Strand1970
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    The majority of leinster players are mainly developed in Dublin and from Dublin. What are u going to do put a gun to their head and tell them off to connacht? Fat chance they would go and more than likely head to France. I support connacht and have no issue with leinster players wanting to stay in Dublin. The other provinces should start really taking youth development seriously. I don't mean keep hovering up players the clubs are developing. I mean doing what the gaa did in Dublin for 10 years get the irfu to invest in new untapped areas for the next 10 year and not just send a development officer out to a school once a year. To ease to say give us your players, ffs develop your own



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    #5596
    Jump_In_Jack
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    Missing the whole point, Leinster has five times the population as Connacht, so should Leinster be split up into 5 teams?



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    #5597
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932640#Comment_118932640

    Why would we want leinster to be like connacht?



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    #5598
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932568#Comment_118932568

    By that logic, no province produces players



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    #5599
    salmocab
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932701#Comment_118932701

    Leinster will be delighted they can sack all those development officers as they do nothing.



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    #5600
    Strand1970
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    I am not missing the point. How many BORN connacht players every had central contract, I can only think of 1 and he plays with leinster. Can't really count the imports because we didn't enourage them to play rugby as children, just offered them money. To play for our club. We have no history of developing internationals from connacht. Until we start developing top players in proportion to our population!!!!, the other provinces will just say the right things about us. We have to start developing our own player just to keep the connacht public interested



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    #5601
    jimdemp
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    Thought keenan should have got red at the very least a yellow. But when you play high profile teams the refs seem to get nervous, much like the kiwis always got the calls.



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    #5602
    jimdemp
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    Going by the 42podcast Leinster salary is 11-12 million a year Connacht are around 3-4. Then you add into that the central contracts you could nearly have 5 times the salary between clubs. When you look at it financially Connacht are doing well



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    #5603
    jimdemp
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    Big papaili will be a loss to the URC, He literally carried jameslowe on his back for the try. That is some power



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    #5604
    ClanofLams
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    Fuckin hell this thread turns into a shitshow with increasing frequency these days



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    #5605
    Jump_In_Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932701#Comment_118932701

    Exactly the point, players should therefore be spread equally across the 4 teams the IRFU runs, but the IRFU chooses not to be equal. It guarantees a 3 tier system, Leinster always at the top, Munster and Ulster in the middle, and Connacht always on the bottom, by design.



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    #5606
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118933870#Comment_118933870

    But your starting point for this argument is completely wrong, your everything that follows is also completely wrong



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    #5607
    Jump_In_Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118932699#Comment_118932699

    Of course Leinster fans would not like Leinster to be treated like Connacht, as it’s obvious that they are not treated the same.

    A centralised Academy system with a draft would be a better system, and banning the “sub academy” system which locks up loads of others and let players straight out of leaving cert either join the IRFU academy system and the IRFU decides where they go, or they stay with their AIL club.

    It would take the IRFU having an interest in sharing out the resources but it’s not the way the IRFU is run. It’s designed to keep the status quo, not to have 4 teams of equal resources.



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    #5608
    Jump_In_Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118933878#Comment_118933878

    What starting point?

    Provinces get players when they leave school, around U18/U20.

    everything before that is dependent on schools and clubs developing the players for them.



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    #5609
    sydthebeat
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    Leinster development pathways are not Connachts "resources". Connacht get more than enough developed players from other provinces as it is.

    As friend said in todays the 42 article, perhaps they need to be better professionals first



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    #5610
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118933895#Comment_118933895

    Your argument that provinces don't produce players



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    #5611
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118933895#Comment_118933895

    You obviously haven't a clue about the resources leinster rugby put into ccros, coach development officers, player development coaches, area representative coaches who screen underage players, numerous leinster underage camps, schools of excellence camps, pathway competitions like the Shane horgan Cup etc.


    By the time players get to 18 years of age leinster rugby know all about they and have a very good idea about who can progress further



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