All Ireland Senior Hurling Championships Lower Tier 2022 (JM,CR,NR, LM Cups)

PTH2009 · 31-03-2022 11:44pm #1

Joe McDonagh Cup (Antrim,Carlow,Down,Kerry,Meath,Offaly)

The Joe McDonagh Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis.

The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final. Both teams qualify for the All Ireland Preliminary Round (3rd Munster Round Robin vs Joe Mcdonagh Cup Winners, 3rd Leinster Round Robin vs Joe Mcdonagh cup Runners Up)

The winner of the final if a non-Munster team, shall be promoted to the Leinster Championship for 2023. If Kerry wins the Joe McDonagh Cup, it shall playoff against the bottom team in the Munster Championship “Round Robin” at a neutral Munster Venue The Winner of that playoff game shall be relegated to the Joe McDonagh Cup for 2023. In that circumstance, the bottom team in the Leinster Championship “Round Robin” shall not be Relegated.

The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Christy Ring Cup for 2023

Round 1 (16th April)

Meath v Carlow

Kerry v Down

Antrim v Offaly

Round 2 (23rd/24th April)

Carlow v Kerry

Offaly v Meath

Down vs Antrim

Round 3 (30th April/1st May)

Kerry vs Meath

Antrim vs Carlow

Down vs Offaly

Round 4 (14th May)

Meath v Antrim

Carlow v Down

Kerry v Offaly

Round 5 (21st May)

Antrim v Kerry

Offaly v Carlow

Down v Meath

Final- Sat 4th June

Christy Ring Cup 2022 (Derry,Kildare,London,Mayo,Wicklow,Sligo)

The Christy Ring Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis.

The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final, The winner will be promoted to the Joe McDonagh Cup for 2023

The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Nicky Rackard Cup for 2023

Round 1 (9th/10th April)

Derry v Wicklow

Mayo v Kildare

London v Sligo

Round 2 (16th April)

Kildare v London

Wicklow v Mayo

Sligo v Derry

Round 3 (23rd April)

London v Mayo

Sligo v Wicklow

Kildare v Derry

Round 4 (7th May)

Derry v London

Wicklow v Kildare

Mayo v Sligo

Round 5 (14th May)

Kildare v Sligo

Mayo v Derry

London v Wicklow

Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

Nicky Rackard Cup 2022 (Armagh,Donegal,Fermanagh,Roscommon,Tyrone,Warwickshire)

The Nicky Rackard Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis.

The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final, The winner will be promoted to the Christy Ring Cup for 2023

The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Lory Meagher Cup for 2023

Round 1 (9th/10th April)

Fermanagh v Donegal

Armagh v Roscommon

Warwickshire v Tyrone

Round 2 (16th/17th April)

Roscommon v Warwickshire

Donegal v Armagh

Tyrone v Fermanagh

Round 3 (23rd/24th April)

Donegal v Roscommon

Tyrone v Armagh

Fermanagh v Warwickshire

Round 4 (7th May)

Roscommon v Tyrone

Warwickshire v Donegal

Armagh v Fermanagh

Round 5 (14th May)

Fermanagh v Roscommon

Tyrone v Donegal

Warwickshire v Armagh

Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

Lory Meagher Cup 2022 (Cavan,Monaghan,Lancashire,Leitrim,Longford,Louth)

The Lory Meagher Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis.

The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final. The winner of the final shall be promoted to the Nickey Rackard Cup for 2023

Round 1 (9th/10th April)

Lancashire v Louth

Monaghan v Cavan

Leitrim v Longford

Round 2 (16th/17th April)

Cavan v Leitrim,

Louth v Monaghan

Longford v Lancashire

Round 3 (23rd/24th April)

Longford v Louth

Leitrim vs Monaghan

Cavan v Lancashire

Round 4 (7th May)

Lancashire v Leitrim

Louth v Cavan

Monaghan v Longford

Round 5 (14th May)

Cavan v Longford

Monaghan v Lancashire

Leitrim v Louth

Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

legendary.xix · 01-04-2022 7:52pm

Kerry, after two final appearances, might miss out this year. Division 1 hurling will stand to Antrim and Offaly, while Down are on an upward trajectory.

PTH2009 · 09-04-2022 4:33pm

London are the first team to win in the 2022 championship

Beat Sligo 0-26-0-21 in Round 1 of the Christy Ring Cup

legendary.xix · 12-04-2022 7:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118903625#Comment_118903625

Kildare and Derry are the teams to beat.

Should the McDonagh Cup be classified as a lower Tier championship when the winners have a route to McCarthy glory? Possibly being a Tier 1B is more accurate?

callaway92 · 12-04-2022 12:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118914523#Comment_118914523

No harm in that - would probably need a rebranding to an extent then though as most people associate the Joe McDonagh as a ‘rest of the pack’ competition and bunch it with the Ring, Rackard and Meagher really

legendary.xix · 12-04-2022 3:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118915761#Comment_118915761

We have the Munster Championship and the Leinster Championship. The National Championship (McDonagh Cup)?

Other lower tier options;

Premier Conference (Ring)

Conference 1 (Rackard)

Conference 2 (Meagher)

These names or something like these are reflective of the respective levels.

Mantis Toboggan · 16-04-2022 1:50pm

Jaysus kerry beaten in Tralee by Down, that's a bit of a shocker!

PTH2009 · 16-04-2022 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118935135#Comment_118935135

Yeah massive result for Down, successfully thorough there first big challenge of the championship

Kerry under pressure now esp having big challenges ahead against Antrim, Offaly and Carlow

supernova5 · 16-04-2022 2:34pm

yea that is a savage result for Down, proving to be a resilient and consistent team

Mantis Toboggan · 16-04-2022 2:39pm

Massive win also for Antrim against offaly with a last minute goal from conor Johnson to win by a point.

supernova5 · 16-04-2022 3:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118935298#Comment_118935298

its either Antrim have regressed or Offaly have improved since their last meeting 3 weeks ago,

conor05 · 16-04-2022 7:40pm

Molumphy doesn’t seem to be able to get the Kerry lads up to the same level as other managers.

legendary.xix · 17-04-2022 10:50am

Down had a good league. Only fine margins kept them out of the final last year. Down v Antrim will be a good gauge of where both of those counties are at.

Shane Nolan retiring after being dropped wasn't the best build up for a Kerry team who were placed on the backfoot by Down from throw in.

Mantis Toboggan · 18-04-2022 6:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938287#Comment_118938287

Retired after being dropped for the game really? Bit OTT.

legendary.xix · 18-04-2022 8:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118941753#Comment_118941753

There are conflicting reports. The manager said he retired after being dropped. Shane has come out and said he has retired for family and business reasons.

PTH2009 · 26-04-2022 10:46pm

The GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B competition or something. 3 hammerings for them in the Munster Championship this year

breezy1985 · 27-04-2022 5:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118981877#Comment_118981877

And in a few years time everyone will say they need to be playing the big teams to progress and then they will get hammered and everyone will say the GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B and after a few years time everyone will say they need to be playing the big teams to progress and then they will get hammered and everyone will say the GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B

legendary.xix · 27-04-2022 7:36am

https://leinstergaa.ie/competitions/electric-ireland-leinster-minor-hurling-championship-2017/

Leinster Tier 3 would suit Kerry. I think they should keep taking their lessons from the Munster minor championship and stick with it.

Mantis Toboggan · 30-04-2022 1:05pm

Nice comeback from Antrim, carlow looked to have them in bother early on, great spirit in the team. Seem to be a cut above the rest so far.

PTH2009 · 30-04-2022 1:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118997482#Comment_118997482

Yeah and they look like they could win it out. 3rd team in Munster will have to travel up there for the All Ireland Preliminary Round if thats the case

Looking like Antrim have made the final and the battle for 2nd place will be very interesting

30-04-2022 1:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118997509#Comment_118997509

Antrim looking the best of them so far, I thought Kerry were out of it after their home loss but another huge win today so maybe not....

PTH2009 · 30-04-2022 2:03pm

Kerry vs Offaly on the 14th May could be a huge match in the battle for 2nd place. Antrim host Kerry in the last round and possibly line out with a B team

Down also very much still in it

Mantis Toboggan · 30-04-2022 2:09pm

Meath gone backwards, hopefully Kildare will be more competitive when they come up.

supernova5 · 30-04-2022 2:27pm

Antrim not 100% sure of final place just yet, I fancy Kerry get to the final

Hammer Archer · 30-04-2022 11:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118997796#Comment_118997796

Dunno what the story behind it but a huge number of our best players aren't making themselves available this season. And two McGowans from Ratoath are on the football panel and would likely be starters for the hurlers. We'd likely struggle to even make the final of the Christy Ring the way we've been this year so far. The only reason we beat Kildare in the league was because Kildare were without their Naas players.

It's a shame that we've utterly failed to build on our initial Christy Ring success in 2016. We gave a half decent account of ourselves the following year but have gradually slipped back year on year while seeing the likes of Kildare and Down overtake us. Since the 2016 Christy Ring success, we've beaten Kerry in 2017 and 2021. While we've had narrow losses against the likes of Westmeath, Carlow, Offaly etc., we've had no other wins against stronger sides in either league or championship. The wins we've gotten have been against sides you'd expect us to be beating with ease (e.g. London, Mayo, Wicklow etc.). It's a very frustrating state of affairs.

PTH2009 · 30-04-2022 11:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118999855#Comment_118999855

Were very thankful down in Waterford for Jack Fagan

legendary.xix · 01-05-2022 6:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118997873#Comment_118997873

Antrim are the favourites in this tournament. Offaly, after a season in Division 1, will be favourites against Kerry. Kerry v Offaly will be a semi-final of sorts but Down are currently in the mix also.

Antrim first 3 league results:

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 3

At Corrigan Park

Waterford 3-21

Antrim 2-22

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 2

At Corrigan Park

Dublin 2-19

Antrim 2-15

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 1

At UPMC Nowlan Park

Kilkenny 2-15

Antrim 3-9

supernova5 · 01-05-2022 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119000276#Comment_119000276

yea Antrim impressive in league for sure but wont count for a whole lot in latter stages of Joe Mac in one-off games

Mantis Toboggan · 01-05-2022 10:48am

Antrim alot stronger at home, have been caught out on the road probably due to the distance involved.

legendary.xix · 01-05-2022 11:04am

Westmeath's Division 1 experience was very evident in last year's McDonagh final.

PTH2009 · 07-05-2022 11:12am

Effectively the end of the road for some teams today in the CR, NR and LM

Crazy the way the calender is gone

Some dose for the Mongahan Hurlers

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/323351

PTH2009 · 13-05-2022 2:22pm

Huge game tomorrow between Kerry and Offaly in the Joe McDonagh. Looking like the winner will qualify for the final with Antrim

Likewise in the Christy Ring big game between Mayo and Derry. Winner of that will play Kildare in the final

In the Nickey Rackard Tyrone, Donegal and Roscommon still have a chance of making the final. Tyrone and Donegal playing each other with Roscommon playing Fermanagh

With Monaghan been deducted points i assume its looking like a Lory Meagher final between Leitrim and Longford

callaway92 · 13-05-2022 4:57pm

Roscommon already essentially guaranteed final. Only way to not qualify is for Fermanagh to beat them and Tyrone to beat Donegal but they’d have to lost by 19+ points more than Donegal lose

Tyrone vs Donegal - Tyrone have to beat them to qualify for final

Bad form for Ring/Rackard/Meagher - Not set yet for Saturday or Sunday next weekend. Still awaiting confirmation

PTH2009 · 14-05-2022 1:40pm

FT- Kerry 2-28 (34)- Offaly 4-23 (35)

Sounded a great game down in Tralee and moves Offaly a step closer to the Joe McDonagh final. Offaly host Carlow next weekend with Kerry travelling to Antrim

conor05 · 14-05-2022 5:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060633#Comment_119060633

A game Kerry will be wondering how they didn't win.

They missed a penalty and hit 5 easy chances wide straight in front of goal. Few soft goals too.

Looking like a Antrim v Offaly final which I expect Antrim to win handy enough.

breezy1985 · 14-05-2022 5:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061583#Comment_119061583

Antrim just seem on a real mission this year. They were the standout team outside the top 9 all the way through the league too.

Mantis Toboggan · 14-05-2022 5:36pm

Antrim surely favorites but Offaly gave them enough of it a few weeks ago and could easily have won.

Where is the final on?

PTH2009 · 14-05-2022 5:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061632#Comment_119061632

Croke Park before the Leinster Final

One of the 3rd placed Munster/Leinster face a trip all the way up to Antrim for the All Ireland Preliminary Round

supernova5 · 14-05-2022 6:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061695#Comment_119061695

you are jumping way ahead of yourself, Offaly haven't officially even qualified for final yet but yea if Antrim win it would be fabulous occasion in Corrigan Park in All Ireland Series

legendary.xix · 14-05-2022 7:04pm

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I was there. Great value for €10! Disappointed with the result but went down fighting. After Offaly's 4th goal it was looking like Offaly were going to run riot. Incredible that Kerry levelled. Offaly, with the experience of a former Kilkenny hurler as manager, had a playbook move to score the winning point. Offaly like to puck the ball out to the corner back. They then work many scores from there.

conor05 · 14-05-2022 8:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119062161#Comment_119062161

I have to say the Joe McDonagh is a fantastic competition.

The standard of hurling in it is excellent.

breezy1985 · 14-05-2022 8:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119063211#Comment_119063211

They found an excellent balance in the numbers for the lower tiers of the hurling championship. Reminds me of the football league.

legendary.xix · 15-05-2022 2:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119063211#Comment_119063211

You are right. The standard of hurling is excellent. A very competitive championship. The McDonagh finalists will have home advantage for the All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-finals. That is a massive reward.

French Toast · 15-05-2022 3:47pm

Great first half in the park. Tony in flying form, David Fitz with a few good scores.

Am I wrong or does Jason McCarthy carry possession in to the tackle all too often and lose it.

Hammer Archer · 17-05-2022 11:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119066576#Comment_119066576

One very glaring exception to the above :(

breezy1985 · 17-05-2022 11:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119074857#Comment_119074857

There is as big a gap between the regular JoeMcD teams and the rest as there is between Joe and Liam. Meath probably done no worse than anyone else would have.

PTH2009 · 21-05-2022 2:19pm

Bit of a shock in the Joe McDonagh with Kerry beating Antrim and qualifying for for the final due to Carlow beating Offaly in Tullamore

Antrim vs Kerry final in 2 weeks

In the Lory Meagher final Louth beat Longford 3-27-3-14

Nicky Rackard final on now

https://youtu.be/nhuXEqo9JhE

Mal-Adjusted · 21-05-2022 3:52pm

is the CR bieng streamed anywhere?

EDIT: nevermind,found it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVaYhEZdiQ

legendary.xix · 21-05-2022 4:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119093830#Comment_119093830

Antrim already being qualified and Kerry needing the win tipped the balance in Kerry's favour today. Well done and thanks l you to Carlow for winning today. Carlow pushed Antrim close in Round 3. The McDonagh Cup has been fantastic quality.

Note the All-Ireland Preliminary Quarter-finals:

The McDonagh winner will host 3rd in Munster.

The McDonagh runner-up will host 3rd in Leinster.

Prediction preliminary quarter-finals:

Antrim v Cork

Kerry v Dublin (Could change later this evening!)

AntrimGlens · 30-05-2022 3:27pm

Where would be a decent pub to meet up with a few lads before Saturdays Joe McDonagh cup game. Whilst it's been a year or two since I was last in Croke I believe both Quinns and (maybe) Hill 16 are no longer in existence?

Is the Big Tree still operating or McGraths?

callaway92 · 30-05-2022 3:28pm

Fair to say that this is the most ‘hyped’ Joe McDonagh final in recent memory?

Should be a good match

All Ireland Senior Hurling Championships Lower Tier 2022 (JM,CR,NR, LM Cups)

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