Average cost for engineer to sign off for new build.

OP, who is doing bank costings for you?

who is designing your foundation?

Who is preparing block work drawings, structural steel details, roof details' designing to ensure compliance with building regs etc?

Who is doing your energy spec and proving compliance with Part L?

Who is going to have to site down and do multiple energy calcs when you want to use a cheaper or different insulation product then revise drawings?

Who is going to be on the end of phone for all queries along the way?

Who is going to issue drawings to specialist contractors and keep drawings updated along the way?

The site visits are the enjoyable part of the job and about 5 percent of the time input overall.

Your engineer then has the headache of cowboy trades being involved and finding mistakes on site - the home owner then thinks that the engineer should have told them this or that. Everything is Engineers fault.

I only work with known contractors now on self builds otherwise it's a **** show that would require continuous supervision.

On top of all the work, the engineer then has an ongoing liability relating to the works so factoring in all this, you can see where the cost comes from.

The Surveyor or Engineer or Architect must Certify all the construction works and provide Professionals Indemnity Insurance for same for a period of 6 years.

I find it hard to understand how anyone could do that work for that money.

3800 is a fairly rock bottom figure for the planning application. To say that you are getting construction stage services as well for that is unreal. I'd say that Engineer is very busy at those prices.

Was there much design involved in your planning process?

I hope your work is getting the attention it should as it really is difficult to give it any time at the price mentioned.

Well I don't know how it's done.

I'd like to know how to be honest. Even a rectangular bungalow cannot be done for that.

Not much different than that around here. Anything from €4000 - €7000 max for end to end process for relatively straight forward houses and you’d have a good choice of engineers in that price range. I don’t know where lads are coming up with the mad figures they’re expecting to pay here.

Majority of one off houses built are relatively straight forward and the design or shape of them usually fall into one of maybe 8 or 10 different styles. Any engineer will have completed similar houses in the past so all the foundations, roof detailing, insulation calculations, working drawings, structural drawings, steel calcs etc. are all already there or only need minor tweaking from the last similar house to yours that the engineer completed.

Obviously if you’re designing or building a bespoke one off house with a lot of out of the ordinary design features I wouldn’t be expecting an engineer in that price range but 90% of houses wouldn’t fall into that category.

Houses are straightforward. 😂😂😂

All foundations are not the same.

All builders and building workers the same.??????. They do not arrive to the site on a horse and wearing a Stetson

This is the Code Of Practice for Inspecting and Certifying Buildings and Works (opt in or opt out)

The Consultant must provide Professional Indemnity Insurance for a period of 6 years after Signing the Certificate of Compliance.

This is one of the many Documents along with all the Planning Acts and all Building Regulations Acts that the Plaintiffs Senior Counsel will present to the Court.

Maybe Aldy might produce a Zoom Engineer - €99.99 inc VAT. Pay for 1 and get 1 free😂

mickdw

Totally agree, and in those old days there was only a few genuine reputable Building Contractors and only a Trade Union qualified craftsperson was allowed to carry out their Trade.

Can you please give details of these businesses cause I've lots of work I can sub out to them at those rates. It will allow me to expand my business and take alot more work.

As it is currently, I would be cheaper than the bigger Engineering businesses locally who would certainly be over 10k for a straight forward planning application plus construction stage works.

A business who would take on construction stage works start to finish for ? 2k or so and taking on all the time and risk associated with that would be a god send to me right now and allow me to do more on the design side.

Our full service cost for the architect from first meeting to signing off on the finished house will be about 6100. That includes any fees associated with the planning and build phase (planning fee, commencement notice etc). I think it's a pretty good price going by some of the numbers I have seen and the amount of work he is doing for us. While not extremely complex it's not a standard pick from a list design either and was designed from our lists of input and requests on what we wanted.

The 3800 mentioned above seems exceptionally good for a full service. On the other hand some of the numbers I have seen on older threads are frightening 10k+ or even 20k+ being mentioned just for architect/engineering work.

The $3800 is definitely not a full service. It's bare minimum to satisfy council and the bank. That's it.

The only way to do that for under 4k is to sell the same design, multiple times. There's many that do it, often they are downloading plans online. As long as people know what they are paying for it's fair. But if people are pretending they are designing houses is a bit misleading. Very often these guys and have qualifications in another field and present themselves as a generic "engineers" in order to churn out planning applications and do a few inspections.

There's been many suspect cases on here over the years, a race to the bottom won't help that.

We had our house plans drawn up bespoke and to our requirements separate to the €3800 by a different party. The construction drawings are the drawings for construction ie where the steel is required etc etc and were done based on the the house plan. Even including the cost for those, all in we are still well under €5k.

Reading this thread its lads puffing out their chests and jacking up their prices because they can and not because they need to.

I did.

Costs as outline but looked like a very basic quote for a very basic service.

Price even included percolation test, maps, council fee and newspaper in what was a crazy cheap price for planning stage.

Build stage lacked detail and I'd assume it was a paddle you own canoe type deal cert provided at end.

Considering what is generally accepted for commencement now in terms of lack of detail, I guess it is possible to offer a bargain basement service but how do you have any control over the standard of work and detailing that you certify then. It's a dangerous game to be playing considering the way insurance works.

Which proves my point. It’s was not a full service. They didn’t design the house that take it to completion for that price.

They provided the bare minimum construction drawings for the builder. If that’s all you needed, no bother. But it’s beyond silly to compare that to a professional actually designing a house start to finish.

Borderline lies? I answered the question the OP asked so please, do tell, how was i lying? As far as i can see in here it's an echo chamber for a few lads justifying the massive fees they are charging for what in reality is not much work.

You forgot the lie you told us and now you are talking chap to get out of it.

The fact of the matter is you didn't get design planning and certification for 3800.

That is now fact so you should clearly state that you mislead everyone here.

There are probably people pricing around now expecting to find skilled professionals to work for nothing based on your lies.

Of course we will never now get the true cost from you.

Some people expect Architects and Engineers to be in private practice and working for 100 quid per day.

Mellor

Well said.

Totally agree with you.

Many people sitting in their Living Room - where the Sun 🌞 never shines, will know why the Garage is filled with Sunshine. Very disappointed that they cannot rotate the house.

Peanuts 🥜 and monkeys 🙈 🙊 🙉