"Green" policies are destroying this country

How many iron redux flow batteries can you buy and install for 650 million euros before 2027

Everyone is making a difference. I want us to make a positive difference

And everyone is spending billions of euros on storage which is going up exponentially

The amount of installed capacity that is currently wasted because of lack of storage... its almost as if the oil and gas industry were politically influential...

Wake up and take a look at reality rather than dreaming magical thoughts.

We do not have natural gas reserves for years to come. We do not even have natural gas to fulfill our needs at present and are relying on a source that our own Energy Regulator states is unsecure and is not in compliance with E.U. directives.

2025 is less than 3 years away. By which time we will have little or nothing coming from Corrib and will be fully dependent on that unsecure source unless Ryan and the greens cut out the messing on Ballyroe and LNG.

There isn`t even a hint that we would have anything in place in less than 3 years where we would still not be dependent on this unsecure source, and everything to suggest that by then this unsecured source would be even more so with U.K. natural gas fields even closer to depletion.

Hopefully they work as advertised, its too early to suggest they are the answer, unless you have a proven backup plan. Personally I think there may be an issue with the storage of massive amount of toxic chemicals in liquid form, especially as they a being pushed for wind farms which are either up high up making leaks into streams and rivers an issue, or at sea.

Tell that to the 5 present major emitters and Germany which is set to join them. They are not too worried about 2025. All they are preparing are more coal burning plants while we are happy to wreck our economy and make beggars of our population for something worth nothing globally than a gold star from teacher Ryan.

Perhaps I didnt make myself clear following your last round of ignorant and abusive posts here, but why would anyone bother engaging with your comments on this thread?

But if you do want an answer to that particular piece of whataboutery- see my other previous reply on that subject

I'll leave you at it.

No you're not, youve just replaced a diety with climate hogwash. IPCC reports replacing Bible/Koran but still the same authoritarian judgemental hokum

Not much different with some here sticking religiously to a dogma refusing to acknowledge and attempting to deflect when inconvenient facts are presented to them.

Just because the reaction is valid does not mean the membrane will not fail after a couple of years, try and behave like an adult.

ESS have tested their batteries and show no degradation over 20000 charge/discharge cycles

If we have to choose between 2 directives, I choose the one that doesn't sacrifice future generations for a little bit more security now

The technology is commercially untested. You can not just believe the manufacturers claims on batteries, history has shown us that, the vast majority of lab claims do not make it to a reliable commercial product. The majority of "new game changing batteries" fail or are never delivered.

Also as I said before, if they are ever installed in Ireland I imagine that the environmental will want to see some sort of catchment area in the event of leakage, there are 1000s of gallons of toxic chemicals in them, just one leaks into a salmon river there will be big issues.

Choosing untested solutions over proven solutions is very very risky. Just because the chemistry works does not mean the product will work, you cannot simulate the aging of the membrane effectively in a Lab. There are commercially proven flow batteries, which are a good choice for some applications, but as they have constantly running pumps (which cant fail) there is also a housekeeping issue too, the cost of regular inspection and maintenance would have to fit the application.

I just looked into ESS for you.

The founder of the company and inventor of the technology, Craig E. Evans, has a track record of commercial failure (products and company - he's made a lot of money though).

He developed a game changing new fuel cell, which was going to change the world offering unparalleled clean power, and sold it though his company Clear Edge Power, the company received many millions in grant money, and he left shortly before the company went bust. A company then bought the rights to manufacture his design, that company went bust shortly after.

ESS has been raising money for years, about 50 million so far. They have high profile investors, just like Nikola have , its the same old model.

I do hope the technology works in a commercial environment but no one in their right mind should be counting on it.